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Miami gets docked 9 schollies over the next 3 years and Haith gets a 5 game suspension.

No bowl bans for the football team. Gee i wonder if the fact that Miami is a contender for a BCS bowl had anything to do with the no bowl ban. Afterall money talks.

Once again, I hope the SEC tells the NCAA to [expletive] off and cuts ties with them.

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Haith's "penalty" is laughable, at best. I'm just glad there is closure for he, Mizzou and the fans. Sick and tired of that cloud hanging over everything the last 24 months.

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StL Dan wrote:Haith's "penalty" is laughable, at best. I'm just glad there is closure for he, Mizzou and the fans. Sick and tired of that cloud hanging over everything the last 24 months.
if he did something wrong, 5 games ain't enough. If he didn't do anything wrong...

The SEC and the Big 10 +1+1+1+1+1+whatever should join forces and walk away from it. Talk about taking away some big and historic names from the NCAA...

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BigDCardlvr wrote:
StL Dan wrote:Haith's "penalty" is laughable, at best. I'm just glad there is closure for he, Mizzou and the fans. Sick and tired of that cloud hanging over everything the last 24 months.
if he did something wrong, 5 games ain't enough. If he didn't do anything wrong...

The SEC and the Big 10 +1+1+1+1+1+whatever should join forces and walk away from it. Talk about taking away some big and historic names from the NCAA...
Ya, that's where I was going with "laughable". My fear was he did something really REALLY bad to piss off the NCAA. Based on the "penalty", he didn't do much of anything, so to speak. If he did do something egregious, heck, it's only 5 games! The players could coach themselves against the likes of SE Louisiana, Southern Illannoy, Gardner Webb and ooweepoowee.

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Another lawsuit was filed this week:

ESPN - Anti-trust claim filed against NCAA
In the most direct challenge yet to the NCAA's longstanding economic model, high-profile sports labor attorney Jeffrey Kessler filed an antitrust claim Monday in a New Jersey federal court on behalf of a group of college basketball and football players, arguing the association has unlawfully capped player compensation at the value of an athletic scholarship.

"The main objective is to strike down permanently the restrictions that prevent athletes in Division I basketball and the top tier of college football from being fairly compensated for the billions of dollars in revenues that they help generate," Kessler told ESPN. "In no other business -- and college sports is big business -- would it ever be suggested that the people who are providing the essential services work for free. Only in big-time college sports is that line drawn."

The lawsuit names the NCAA and the five largest conferences (the Southeastern, Big Ten, Pacific-12, Atlantic Coast and Big 12) as defendants and effectively asks for an end to NCAA-style amateurism. The players listed as plaintiffs include Clemson defensive back Martin Jenkins, Rutgers basketball player J.J. Moore, UTEP tight end Kevin Perry and Cal tight end Bill Tyndall, though the claim is a class action and proposes to represent all scholarship players in FBS football and Division I basketball. Jenkins is a junior, while the other three are seniors who recently completed their NCAA eligibility.

The move comes on the heels of a similar, if less aggressive, claim filed earlier this month by a Seattle firm on behalf of former West Virginia running back Shawne Alston. In that suit, which does not include current players, the same defendants that Kessler's group is targeting are asked to pay damages for the difference in the value of an athletic scholarship and the full cost of attendance -- an amount equivalent to several thousand dollars annually.

By contrast, the Kessler suit dispenses with the cost-of-attendance argument and does not ask for damages as a group. It simply states that no cap is legal in a free market and asks the judge to issue an injunction against the NCAA ending the practice. It contends that NCAA member universities are acting as a cartel by fixing the prices paid to athletes, who presumably would receive offers well in excess of tuition, room, board and books if not restricted by NCAA rules.

"We're looking to change the system. That's the main goal," Kessler said. "We want the market for players to emerge."

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This was also a great article to show what kind of money we are talking about:

If we paid NCAA basketball players what they are really worth, this is what they'd earn
To illustrate, prior to the NCAA Men’s Basketball Tournament, Embiid had produced 4.67 wins for the Kansas Jayhawks (calculated essentially according this approach used for the NBA). Using college revenue data from the U.S. Department of Education, economist Robert Brown (for research Brown, I, and a few others are working on) estimated that one win for the Kansas men’s basketball team was worth $159,601 in 2010-11 ($166,585 in 2014 dollars). Given these two numbers, Embiid was worth approximately $777,286 (again, prior to the tournament). If we take the USA Today number seriously, this means the Jayhawks have underpaid Embiid by a bit more than $650,000.

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BURN IT TO THE GROUND

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They might have the guy(s) who could do that! From that ESPN article:
Yet for the embattled NCAA, the most significant aspect of the new lawsuit may be the entry of Kessler, a litigator with a history of victories against sports leagues reaching to the 1970s. Kessler helped bring free agency to the NFL, winning a key jury verdict for the NFL Players Association in 1992. He remains outside counsel to the NFLPA and the NBA's player union, has taken on Major League Baseball and represented star athletes including Michael Jordan and Tom Brady. For municipal authorities, he forced the Raiders to honor their stadium lease and stay in Oakland.

Kessler also has a former NCAA insider riding shotgun in this effort: Tim Nevius, previously one of the organization's top investigators of rules violations and now co-chair of the college sports practice at their New York-based law firm. As an associate director of enforcement, Nevius worked on some of the NCAA's most high-profile investigations, including that of Ohio State football, whose former coach, Jim Tressel, lost his job after admitting to Nevius he had broken NCAA rules related to his knowledge of the sale of memorabilia by players.

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Northwestern football players can unionize, NLRB rules
Northwestern University football players are employees of the school and are therefore entitled to a union election, Peter Sung Ohr, the regional director of the National Labor Relations Board, said in a ruling released Wednesday afternoon.

Ohr's decision is expected to be appealed to the NLRB in Washington. Labor experts say an election is unlikely to take place until the NLRB makes a decision. If Ohr's decision is upheld, the case would likely make its way through federal appellate court and could reach the Supreme Court.

The decision is "revolutionary for college sports," said Robert McCormick, a professor emeritus at Michigan State University College of Law who focuses on sports and labor law.
Alan Cubbage, Vice President for University Relations at Northwestern, said in a statement they were disappointed in the decision.

"While we respect the NLRB process and the regional director's opinion, we disagree with it," the university said. "Northwestern believes strongly that our student-athletes are not employees, but students. Unionization and collective bargaining are not the appropriate methods to address the concerns raised by student-athletes."

Northwestern confirmed that it plans to appeal to the full National Labor Relations Board in Washington, D.C. "We believe that participation in athletic events is part of the overall educational experience for those students, not a separate activity," NU said.

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