Fat Strat wrote:Have you worked directly with police in any capacity other than crime - like your car being stolen? Because my wife and I have both worked closely with police in our own, very different capacities and in very different environments - small town and bigger city - and what you are saying here about police only protecting the interests of the rich and serving a small % of the populations doesn’t even remotely fit with my experiences. In fact, I would say that the exact opposite is true in both environments where I have worked with police and civilian leaders.pioneer98 wrote:We do know that white supremacists have tried to infiltrate police forces, but that was not really the point. I didn't call cops Nazis with that image. The point was more that the kind of people who fly a "Blue Lives Matter" flag are pretty Nazi-like. The police are largely just doing what they are told by their superiors. Why do some people think cops need a cheering section? It's so odd to me.MAGA wrote:You’re calling the nazis when someone breaks into your house?
In my town police have such a backlog that, if your car is stolen, there is a good chance they won't even investigate it. They are overwhelmed. So the top brass of the police have to prioritize what they work on. Stolen cars have become a lower priority. Cracking down on homeless people and crime near the gentrifying downtown area has become one of their higher priorities. Basically, the police's top priorities align with what the powerful business people in my town want. The cops are there to protect those folks' interests and investments more than anyone else's. And all those powerful business people are rich white people, the kind of people who would fly a "Blue Lives Matter" flag.
The police themselves are not pure evil or something. That's not what I'm saying. The police still do some good things that serve the wider community, but more and more, they seem to be serving fewer and fewer people. It's more a problem of the politics behind the police than the police themselves. If we had a stronger community presence in our politics deciding how to use our limited police resources, I think the police would be doing more work that would benefit the whole community.
I also find your last comments curious and highly questionable because the police I have worked with in both suburban and urban environments have begged and begged and begged and begged private citizens to organize toward that “strong community presence” you seem to desire. As have the civic leaders who are responsible for those budgets. The police and the civic government probably aren’t the problem if there is a lack of community organization.
Police departments across the country have fought to keep civilians- at least those they don’t control- from any oversight capacity. It’s not really debatable.