When Will We Know America is a Fascist State?

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Hawley is a real POS it seems. And 5 more years before he can possibly be voted out.
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I take it he's not talking about closing our 600 military bases around the world.
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ghostrunner wrote:Hawley is a real POS it seems. And 5 more years before he can possibly be voted out.

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Cosmopolitan is SooOoooOOooo UnChristian. Almost as bad as SOCIALISM! WWJD! SEND THEM BACK TO THEIR COUNTRIES ME THINKS!
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Y'know the thing about "back where they came from" is, if Rosie O'Donnell or Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell or Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton or Elizabeth Warren or Freed or wart or me or Anderson Cooper said some critical stuff about Trump, Trump would not insist that we go "back where we came from." Wouldn't be like "Paul Ryan was not nice to Trump, needs to go back to Ireland" or "Mitch McConnell wasn't nice to Trump, needs to go back to the ocean with the other tortoises." That's how you know it's racist, transparently and as plain as day: he will only ever apply it to non-white people.
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Was this posted here yet? Kinda concerning

Trump says supporters could 'demand' he not leave office after two terms
WASHINGTON — In tweets on Sunday morning, President Donald Trump suggested supporters might not want him to leave office after two terms.

"The good news is that at the end of 6 years, after America has been made GREAT again and I leave the beautiful White House (do you think the people would demand that I stay longer? KEEP AMERICA GREAT)," Trump wrote.

The president had also been criticizing the Washington Post and the New York Times, calling them "both a disgrace."

Trump has talked about the issue before. In March last year, according to a recording obtained by CNN, he told a closed-door fundraiser at Mar-a-Lago that "maybe we'll have to give that a shot some day," in reference to Chinese President Xi Jinping's abolishment of term limits. It was unclear if the comments were made in jest.
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Read this entire thing, it's really good. It's from April and things have only gotten worse, much worse.

The Far Right Doesn't Want to Beat the Left, It Wants to Exterminate It
Adolf Hitler's prejudice against Jewish people is widely understood and condemned today. But his parallel and rabid hatred of leftists is less frequently broached in popular discussions of the Second World War. Yet the two hatreds were deeply intertwined. The scholar Robert Paxton has noted that fascism was distinguished specifically by "an anti-liberal, anti-socialist, violently exclusionary, expansionist nationalist agenda." In his book Mein Kampf, Hitler is obsessed with what he called "Bolshevist-Jewish" Communism. Hitler hated leftists because he saw them as Jewish, and Jews because he saw them as leftists.

This same conflation of ethnic "Others" and the political left was behind last October's shooting at Pittsburgh's Tree of Life synagogue. The alleged shooter was enraged because he believed that billionaire Jewish leftists like Democratic donor and Holocaust survivor George Soros were funding illegal immigration into the U.S. The Tree of Life synagogue supported HIAS, a Jewish non-profit that resettles refugees. Here, in a single gruesome incident, we can see how hatred of Jews, hatred of immigrants, and hatred of the left are part of the same toxic brew. In Pittsburgh, the result was the murder of 11 people—the worst anti-Semitic attack in US history.

The shooter's anti-Semitism has been widely, and rightly, condemned. Yet his profound anti-leftism has barely been mentioned or discussed. In fact, the attack on the synagogue was used by some right-wing commentators as a specious occasion to attack the "Israel-hating left" and scoff at left-wing Jews who had expressed concern about a palpable rise in anti-Semitism since Trump began campaigning for president.

Animus against leftists is so ingrained in American life that people have trouble condemning it even when it leads to murder.

The far right capitalizes on the fact that mainstream politicians, pundits, and citizens are reluctant to stand in solidarity with leftists. Hitler's rise to power in Germany was largely the result of anti-leftism, as conservative politicians like Paul von Hindenburg allied themselves with the Nazis in order to crush the Communist parties of the day. Similarly, Trump has consolidated power because people like Vice President Mike Pence and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell are willing to use right-wing populism to keep Democrats from power and thwart left-wing policies like universal health care, gay rights, and abortion rights.

Meanwhile, supposed moderates tie themselves into knots trying to argue that quite-reasonable left-wing political figures like Elizabeth Warren are somehow the same as Trump. Or else they insist that radical protesters on the left are allied with Trump in their assaults on the basic ideological fabric of liberal democracy.

These analyses trip lightly over the fact that the far-right movement has spent decades telling itself exactly this: that anyone to the left of Dwight D. Eisenhower is a radical monster who hates America (though John Birch Society Founder Robert Welch accused even Ike of being "a dedicated, conscious agent of the Communist conspiracy"). When supposedly sober pundits blame the left for the rise of Trump, they are simply echoing and cosigning the far-right talking point that the political left is responsible for everything that's ever gone wrong in the world.
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I hate that calling people fascists or nazis has become so cliche that it is not effective. Republicans have weaponized "socialism" against the Democrats for ages. However if in this election cycle the Democrats (legitimately, mind you) call out Trump and the Republican party for their hard steer into fascist policies, they will be crucified.

Trump is a fascist. It is clear as day. And it should be called out as such.
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Republicans are [expletive] crazy and Fox news is a cesspool
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ghostrunner wrote:Republicans are [expletive] crazy and Fox news is a cesspool
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