IMADreamer wrote:It's a great question, and I know a lot of farmers who didnt' vote for Trump because they knew what would happen. I also know of some who voted for him because of his promise to spend on infrastructure. Particularly upgrades to the locks on the Mississippi and Illinois Rivers which are in desperate shape.
So here's where it gets real perplexing to me.
They are in an industry that relies on export and they hear that Trump will isolate us from the rest of the world--especially Mexico, who purchases a lot of corn from them. This is really bad to the point of devastating to their livelihoods.
They hear that Trump will improve infrastructure, but what good does infrastructure do if they are millions in debt as you noted and they are going out of business? The locks on rivers is effectively meaningless when faced with the larger reality of their homes and livelihood being jeopardized.
It's like if I said to you "Hey, I'm going to destroy the engine in your car, but I promise I'll get you new tires" and you go "New tires! Huzzah! He's giving us new tires!"
and again I don't know. I didn't vote for Trump, no one in my family voted for Trump. It's so blatantly obvious he's a con man at best. I think he's much more evil actually. I don't know how to explain my neighbors actions. I know they are all scared, scared their lives are forever changed. Scared of the big bad scary Muslims that more rational people know aren't a problem, but again I think it comes back to Fox news and those conservative outlets. When the only info you get tells you everything left is bad and Muslims are going to kill you you believe it after 20 years.
I don't know. To be honest I think the only solution is revolution. I think it's the inevitable end point to all of this. There is no other way we return to a functioning political system. I know that's extreme and crackpot in itself but this country probably has to fight itself, millions die, and we know what real pain and suffering is before we over throw the oligarchs and realize that the guy that voted for Trump isn't that different from the rest of us.
Now with that said I'm sure the hell not starting a revolution. So NSA guy listening to this, I'm not your guy. I just want to drive my car, eat BBQ and bang my gf. Pretty much my plan for as long as I can still do those things. When the [expletive] hits the fan I'll just [expletive] move because this [expletive] country isn't worth dying for or going to jail for.
IMADreamer wrote:The big Ag giants are already taking hits. Deere is laying off people and potentially closing stores because the ag economy is already hurting. I think ADM took some big losses last year too. I hate to be doom and gloom but I think a lot of people out here have seen this big crash coming for a long time. Insane land prices, low commodity prices, and sky rocketing equipment and input prices aren't sustainable. A lot of farmers are millions in debt. Someday it's all coming crashing down and I'm very fearful of the fallout when it does. Like I said earlier. The farm economy is a huge chunk of the rural economy. Not to mention the potential for food insecurity in the country if there is a huge collapse.
This is some scary stuff. I hope you are wrong.
Me too. I really hope I am but there is this rarely spoken about elephant in the room that only gets talked about in hushed circles, and that's all of this around us has to end. Land prices are 15k an acre here and 2$ corn can't pay for it. Cash rent is $500 an acre in spots. $300 everywhere. Seed corn now costs around $200 a bag for the good stuff, NH3 can occasionally spike to $1000 a ton. Fertilizer through the roof. New combines with heads will be damn near a million dollars after it's all said and done. Wait until interest rates go up and see that pain. A million dollars buys you almost nothing in farming today.
This is all a big house of cards and it's coming down someday. I think people can't fathom the devastation. Don't worry though, I've heard everyone say we can all just move to the city and get those good jobs there. Right? Totally no jobs or housing problems in the city.