TV Thread - beware, [expletive] can get spoilery
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Re: TV Thread - beware, [expletive] can get spoilery
Finale was perfect, although
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The black and white stuff really feels like the writers in season 1 backed themselves into a corner that they never got out of. The metaphor is pretty obvious: "Gene's life in Omaha is a black and white imitation of the excitement of Saul Goodman's." But it intentionally mutes everything.
I thought a good time to go to color would've been
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Re: TV Thread - beware, [expletive] can get spoilery
I was kind of surprised when the end credits popped up. Like...
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i didn't see it but sounds like the finale was like seinfeld when many characters we've seen over the years come back to put the lead in jail
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been awhile since i watched anything with max headroom but im now convinced jim carrey stole his bit
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BottenFieldofDreams wrote: ↑August 8 22, 2:28 pmNow in the next post I'm going to complain about how tired I am of reboots and old ideas because I'm the worst. But I've decided they need to re-do Lost.
Put it in space or post-apocalypse or something. Change Jacob/the man in black to a mysterious black hole and a comet or whatever. But keep the premise and flashback storytelling.
TV has changed a lot since Lost. Someone can chart out exactly how and how long to tell their story. No terrible gear-spinning, or forced plot holes. An ending thats at least a little gratifying.
I guess I just really loved the mystery plus the character work a lot. Really made for great storytelling. I've been half-watching episodes here and there. Probably works a lot better on a binge actually. Rather than a six year burn. But I'm not sure I want to commit.
I watched The Leftovers instead. And was able to plow through it. Good show. Some interesting parallels to Lost. Feels a little all over the place at times. But provocative and good.
It seems from a little snooping around that the Lost finale has actually aged well and is appreciated a lot more by modern bingers. That makes sense to me. All the excruciating waiting of watching it in real time helped make the “it’s not about the mysteries, but the friends we made along the way” ending really goddam frustrating, imo.
The Leftovers basically ends the same way, but lands far more gracefully.
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Broke my ankle last fall and my friends loved Lost and I agreed to watch it for the first time. I won't yuck anyone's yum if the whole "it's the journey not the destination" works for them. Personally, it feels like an excuse for a poorly written show. It's Abrams' stupid "box" where he just wants there to be a mystery to compel people to watch for a satisfying conclusion when there's so many minor tweaks that could have been somewhat satisfactory.BottenFieldofDreams wrote: ↑August 24 22, 10:44 amBottenFieldofDreams wrote: ↑August 8 22, 2:28 pmNow in the next post I'm going to complain about how tired I am of reboots and old ideas because I'm the worst. But I've decided they need to re-do Lost.
Put it in space or post-apocalypse or something. Change Jacob/the man in black to a mysterious black hole and a comet or whatever. But keep the premise and flashback storytelling.
TV has changed a lot since Lost. Someone can chart out exactly how and how long to tell their story. No terrible gear-spinning, or forced plot holes. An ending thats at least a little gratifying.
I guess I just really loved the mystery plus the character work a lot. Really made for great storytelling. I've been half-watching episodes here and there. Probably works a lot better on a binge actually. Rather than a six year burn. But I'm not sure I want to commit.
I watched The Leftovers instead. And was able to plow through it. Good show. Some interesting parallels to Lost. Feels a little all over the place at times. But provocative and good.
It seems from a little snooping around that the Lost finale has actually aged well and is appreciated a lot more by modern bingers. That makes sense to me. All the excruciating waiting of watching it in real time helped make the “it’s not about the mysteries, but the friends we made along the way” ending really goddam frustrating, imo.
The Leftovers basically ends the same way, but lands far more gracefully.
To me; it was like the opposite of what Breaking Bad did with the M60 after Season 5. Gilligan said he introduced that not knowing how'd they get there; and he paid it off wonderfully. Abrams introduces twists and mysteries and abandons them, hand waves them, or deus ex machina's them. It felt thematically inconsistent and wayward for me. As for redoing, I don't see much point. There wasn't anything plot-wise that struck me as salvageable and the themes could be explored with similar but unique circumstances.
Honestly, I don't see much good reason for TV show remakes. They just end up like modern versions of the old one; Hawaii 5-0 is a modern police procedural in Hawaii, etc etc. Even if you think about good movie remakes - Ocean's 11 - the tie to the original movie is pretty thin.
It may sound hypocritical, though, because I loved The Leftovers and some of the ambiguity of that show. It's been a minute since I've watched it but I remember the plot points being more minor and the bigger parts being how the actual people deal with it and the moral grayness of it. For instance; Anyways, The Leftovers is a pretty underrated show in my opinion. Glad you enjoyed it
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I loved the Leftovers. I should probably rewatch it now that we've had a real-life pandemic. There's a solid clue in the theme song for the show: "let the mystery be."
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Leftovers is a top 5 all time for me. I don’t have an order but it’s definitely in there.