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So I got the 2nd Pfizer vaccine on 1/8. After the first vaccine in Dec I had some barely noticeable fatigue and that was it. After the 2nd dose even though I was warned the side effects would be worse, I didn't really believe it. Well I couldn't have been more wrong, I felt like I was hit by a truck, headache, low fever, body aches, fatigue. I finally took some tylenol and that helped but man that was miserable. Just a heads up, and curious if anyone else felt that bad. Also wonder if Pfizer is worse than Moderna.

P.S. it even brought on a gout flare up which I haven't had in years, so that was fun.

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Gypsy Lou wrote:
January 11 21, 1:38 pm
So I got the 2nd Pfizer vaccine on 1/8. After the first vaccine in Dec I had some barely noticeable fatigue and that was it. After the 2nd dose even though I was warned the side effects would be worse, I didn't really believe it. Well I couldn't have been more wrong, I felt like I was hit by a truck, headache, low fever, body aches, fatigue. I finally took some tylenol and that helped but man that was miserable. Just a heads up, and curious if anyone else felt that bad. Also wonder if Pfizer is worse than Moderna.

P.S. it even brought on a gout flare up which I haven't had in years, so that was fun.
UGH! Thanks for the heads up, Lou. Glad you're all vaxxed up though!

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GeddyWrox wrote:
January 11 21, 1:44 pm
Gypsy Lou wrote:
January 11 21, 1:38 pm
So I got the 2nd Pfizer vaccine on 1/8. After the first vaccine in Dec I had some barely noticeable fatigue and that was it. After the 2nd dose even though I was warned the side effects would be worse, I didn't really believe it. Well I couldn't have been more wrong, I felt like I was hit by a truck, headache, low fever, body aches, fatigue. I finally took some tylenol and that helped but man that was miserable. Just a heads up, and curious if anyone else felt that bad. Also wonder if Pfizer is worse than Moderna.

P.S. it even brought on a gout flare up which I haven't had in years, so that was fun.
UGH! Thanks for the heads up, Lou. Glad you're all vaxxed up though!
Thanks! I do feel Covid proof now. (I'll still wear a mask of course in case I could still spread it)

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thanks for sharing lou. hope you get better and better

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thanksgiving was a marker, xmas was a marker, NYE was a marker...and now a new marker in tuscaloosa

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Jocephus wrote:
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thanksgiving was a marker, xmas was a marker, NYE was a marker...and now a new marker in tuscaloosa
Roll tide?

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Every one of those MFers should get a ankle monitor that alerts authorities if they go anywhere near an ER before Covid is over.

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i cant help but wonder how many may have been at the capitol and/or think what happened there was fine...BUT...your team wins a championship, put everything on hold, the insurrection can wait, i gotta party!

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The Future of the Coronavirus? An Annoying Childhood Infection
Once immunity is widespread in adults, the virus rampaging across the world will come to resemble the common cold, scientists predict.
As millions are inoculated against the coronavirus, and the pandemic’s end finally seems to glimmer into view, scientists are envisioning what a post-vaccine world might look like — and what they see is comforting.

The coronavirus is here to stay, but once most adults are immune — following natural infection or vaccination — the virus will be no more of a threat than the common cold, according to a study published in the journal Science on Tuesday.

The virus is a grim menace now because it is an unfamiliar pathogen that can overwhelm the adult immune system, which has not been trained to fight it. That will no longer be the case once everyone has been exposed to either the virus or vaccine.

Children, on the other hand, are constantly challenged by pathogens that are new to their bodies, and that is one reason they are more adept than adults at fending off the coronavirus. Eventually, the study suggests, the virus will be of concern only in children younger than 5, subjecting even them to mere sniffles — or no symptoms at all.

In other words, the coronavirus will become “endemic,” a pathogen that circulates at low levels and only rarely causes serious illness.

“The timing of how long it takes to get to this sort of endemic state depends on how quickly the disease is spreading, and how quickly vaccination is rolled out,” said Jennie Lavine, a postdoctoral fellow at Emory University in Atlanta, who led the study.

“So really, the name of the game is getting everyone exposed for the first time to the vaccine as quickly as possible.”

Dr. Lavine and her colleagues looked to the six other human coronaviruses — four that cause the common cold, plus the SARS and MERS viruses — for clues to the fate of the new pathogen.

The four common cold coronaviruses are endemic, and produce only mild symptoms. SARS and MERS, which surfaced in 2003 and 2012, respectively, made people severely ill, but they did not spread widely.
Other experts said this scenario was not just plausible but likely.

“The overall intellectual construct of the paper I fully agree with,” said Shane Crotty, a virologist at the La Jolla Institute for Immunology in San Diego.

If the vaccines prevent people from transmitting the virus, “then it becomes a lot more like the measles scenario, where you vaccinate everybody, including kids, and you really don’t see the virus infecting people anymore,” Dr. Crotty said.

It is more plausible that the vaccines will prevent illness — but not necessarily infection and transmission, he added. And that means the coronavirus will continue to circulate.

“It’s unlikely that the vaccines we have right now are going to provide sterilizing immunity,” the kind needed to prevent infection, said Jennifer Gommerman, an immunologist at the University of Toronto.

Natural infection with the coronavirus produces a strong immune response in the nose and throat. But with the current vaccines, Dr. Gommerman said, “you’re not getting a natural immune response in the actual upper respiratory tract, you’re getting an injection in the arm.” That raises the likelihood that infections will still occur, even after vaccination.

Ultimately, Dr. Lavine’s model rests on the assumption that the new coronavirus is similar to the common cold coronaviruses. But that assumption may not hold up, cautioned Marc Lipsitch, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health in Boston.

“Other coronavirus infections may or may not be applicable, because we haven’t seen what those coronaviruses can do to an older, naïve person,” Dr. Lipsitch said. (Naïve refers to an adult whose immune system has not been exposed to the virus.)
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/heal ... uture.html

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