That all storms can produce tornadoes?cardinalkarp wrote:Well that's just not true.AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:Almost all stormas have the ability to spawn a tornado though. So, do you think all thunderstorm warnings, which they have gotten good at predicting, should just go ahead and be tornado warnings?cardinalkarp wrote:And tornadic storms can typically cover a large area. The fact is they can just tell if the storm has a distinct possibly to spawn a tornado, if it has that ability then issue a warning for the area. It's the people who are fools who will be out on their porches when the tornado drops down in their front yard.
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Something definitely doesn't make sense in this thread, no doubt.AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:That doesn't even make any sense.Faceman wrote:Well, it's about time some of these warnings had teeth. The warning-to-damage ratio was getting awfully low.lukethedrifter wrote:7 people killed in Arkansas last night from storms and tornadoes.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... ansas.html
All kinds of warnings in Memphis today, but only a few touchdowns. Meanwhile the whole midsouth braced. Damn warnings.
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If you want super accurate tornado warnings, more so then we have now we are going to have to fund the big Met schools, Project Vortex, and the NWS a heck of a lot more. Sadly right now we are still using cold war radar technology although dual pol radar is slowly being brought online. There just isn't the funding to upgrade everything that needs to be upgraded and in todays "cut everything" mindset it won't happen in my life time I'm sure.
Also please keep in mind that a if a tornado is spotted in Florrisant and Fenton is having it's sirens blown it's the the systems fault, the media, or emergency manager. The NWS warnings as of a few years ago are very location specific and will list individual towns and areas of counties and the warning polygons do not encompass the whole county. This was done in an effort to stop the problem you are complaining about. Sadly the media and others didn't get that memo I guess.
For example this is a current active warning.
TORNADO WARNING FOR...
CENTRAL FRANKLIN PARISH IN NORTHEAST LOUISIANA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF WINNSBORO...
SOUTHWESTERN RICHLAND PARISH IN NORTHEAST LOUISIANA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF MANGHAM...
Notice how it's high lighting specific sections of the county (perish) and certain towns. So in this case the sirens should not be blowing in the other parts of the county and if they are it's due to an antiquated system or a bad emergency manager.
Also please keep in mind that a if a tornado is spotted in Florrisant and Fenton is having it's sirens blown it's the the systems fault, the media, or emergency manager. The NWS warnings as of a few years ago are very location specific and will list individual towns and areas of counties and the warning polygons do not encompass the whole county. This was done in an effort to stop the problem you are complaining about. Sadly the media and others didn't get that memo I guess.
For example this is a current active warning.
TORNADO WARNING FOR...
CENTRAL FRANKLIN PARISH IN NORTHEAST LOUISIANA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF WINNSBORO...
SOUTHWESTERN RICHLAND PARISH IN NORTHEAST LOUISIANA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF MANGHAM...
Notice how it's high lighting specific sections of the county (perish) and certain towns. So in this case the sirens should not be blowing in the other parts of the county and if they are it's due to an antiquated system or a bad emergency manager.
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To be fair to Beerstriiiiike, I have read that many counties have retained the policy to set off the sirens over entire jurisdictions despite what the NWS tells them.IMADreamer wrote: Also please keep in mind that a if a tornado is spotted in Florrisant and Fenton is having it's sirens blown it's the the systems fault, the media, or emergency manager. The NWS warnings as of a few years ago are very location specific and will list individual towns and areas of counties and the warning polygons do not encompass the whole county. This was done in an effort to stop the problem you are complaining about. Sadly the media and others didn't get that memo I guess.
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I have stood in the middle of our town, listening to the weather siren blaring away, for a severe thunderstorm that was 21 miles away, but was grazing the southeastern part of our county. The path of the storm was heading away from were I was, and there was no way that we were in danger.lukethedrifter wrote:To be fair to Beerstriiiiike, I have read that many counties have retained the policy to set off the sirens over entire jurisdictions despite what the NWS tells them.IMADreamer wrote: Also please keep in mind that a if a tornado is spotted in Florrisant and Fenton is having it's sirens blown it's the the systems fault, the media, or emergency manager. The NWS warnings as of a few years ago are very location specific and will list individual towns and areas of counties and the warning polygons do not encompass the whole county. This was done in an effort to stop the problem you are complaining about. Sadly the media and others didn't get that memo I guess.
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Is there any weatherman better than Dave Brown ?Faceman wrote:[ All kinds of warnings in Memphis today, but only a few touchdowns.
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Spider John wrote:I have stood in the middle of our town, listening to the weather siren blaring away, for a severe thunderstorm that was 21 miles away, but was grazing the southwestern part of our county. The path of the storm was heading away from were I was, and there was no way that we were in danger.lukethedrifter wrote:To be fair to Beerstriiiiike, I have read that many counties have retained the policy to set off the sirens over entire jurisdictions despite what the NWS tells them.IMADreamer wrote: Also please keep in mind that a if a tornado is spotted in Florrisant and Fenton is having it's sirens blown it's the the systems fault, the media, or emergency manager. The NWS warnings as of a few years ago are very location specific and will list individual towns and areas of counties and the warning polygons do not encompass the whole county. This was done in an effort to stop the problem you are complaining about. Sadly the media and others didn't get that memo I guess.
I realize that's what going on most of the time, but that's an issue with the system not the NWS putting out a warning to be overly cautious.
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The old ladies love him, to me, Childers is the guy.Spider John wrote:Is there any weatherman better than Dave Brown ?Faceman wrote:[ All kinds of warnings in Memphis today, but only a few touchdowns.
They all live for this weather though, they (Childers, Van Horn, Brown) all picked the right profession.
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Luke, yes. I gave a link that cited that Little Rock does that. And, on the west side of towns, that's a pointless system as storms move northeast.Spider John wrote:I have stood in the middle of our town, listening to the weather siren blaring away, for a severe thunderstorm that was 21 miles away, but was grazing the southeastern part of our county. The path of the storm was heading away from were I was, and there was no way that we were in danger.lukethedrifter wrote:To be fair to Beerstriiiiike, I have read that many counties have retained the policy to set off the sirens over entire jurisdictions despite what the NWS tells them.IMADreamer wrote: Also please keep in mind that a if a tornado is spotted in Florrisant and Fenton is having it's sirens blown it's the the systems fault, the media, or emergency manager. The NWS warnings as of a few years ago are very location specific and will list individual towns and areas of counties and the warning polygons do not encompass the whole county. This was done in an effort to stop the problem you are complaining about. Sadly the media and others didn't get that memo I guess.
SJ, According to most in here, you should be dead right now/are the type of person that will soon be killed by a tornado. Glad you understand what I'm saying.
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No I think what you're saying is the sirens should only go off if YOUR immediate area is in danger...if not screw everyone around you.


