Things I'd rather not know

[Jocephus]

pescatarian is someone who will only eat fish as a meat source. i started off as vegetarian (don't think i could do vegan) but then about sept. or so i decided i would eat fish from time to time. which is ironic because the image in my head that made me want to not eat meat was when i was in the grocery store walking past the meat/fish section and i saw someone buy a lobster and the guy pointing out which one he wanted and the attendant grabbing and pulling him out. i don't know why but that image on that day at that time had an affect on me.

and i do feel better overall i'd say. i do remember a few days having some pains and my understanding is that was my body "aching" for some meat. i think i've finally purged my body of the red meat.

i basically eat a lot of pasta and salad heh.

[jim]

Also, I've never caught fish that were good enough to cook with the head still on. The fish I've cooked were either crappie or catfish. So...head off, filleted and fried. We used to go trout fishing once a year, actually still do, but someone else cleans those and while the heads are still on and they've just been gutted, they're gross. Give me crappie any day of the week over trout.

Wild spring fed stream trout are absolutely the best tasting fish you can find. Crappie? Catfish? Do you jump in a muddy river and pull them out of a log with your hands? Seriuosly, you must be a hillbilly.

Trout are the only fresh water fish worth eating - but they have to be wild and not farm raised on Purina trout chow and dumped in a lake. This is simply not debatable.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

Hey, on top of tasting like poop, you know what else sucks about trout fishing? Everything. Get all dressed up in a stupid vest with lures on it that you have to put there ever so carefully and pick out the right ones and do this that and the other, then put on those waders that suck, then go get in the freezing ass water, and then work your ass off to get a lure ever so gently in front of a finicky fish.

Crappie fishing, on the other hand goes like this. Grab a bucket of minnows, head out in the boat, find a stump, set a yoyo, drink beer, piss out of the boat (since you don't have waders on this is simple), wait for the ZING! and go get your fish. Set the yoyo and repeat. You can do this all night long. As a matter of fact, that's the best thing to do. Then, sleep, make a bloody mary, clean the plethora of fish caught the night before, fry the fish up, drink beer and play washers during the day while trout fishermen are wasting their time trying to catch a fish.

The one thing trout fishing has that crappie fishing doesn't is moving water which is beautiful if you want to take a picture. And, natural trout, not those raised in hatcheries may be better tasing than crappie, regardless crappie is awesome. So, yeah. I stand by my original comment.

[jim]

Hey, on top of tasting like poop, you know what else sucks about trout fishing? Everything. Get all dressed up in a stupid vest with lures on it that you have to put there ever so carefully and pick out the right ones and do this that and the other, then put on those waders that suck, then go get in the freezing ass water, and then work your ass off to get a lure ever so gently in front of a finicky fish.

Crappie fishing, on the other hand goes like this. Grab a bucket of minnows, head out in the boat, find a stump, set a yoyo, drink beer, piss out of the boat (since you don't have waders on this is simple), wait for the ZING! and go get your fish. Set the yoyo and repeat. You can do this all night long. As a matter of fact, that's the best thing to do. Then, sleep, make a bloody mary, clean the plethora of fish caught the night before, fry the fish up, drink beer and play washers during the day while trout fishermen are wasting their time trying to catch a fish.

The one thing trout fishing has that crappie fishing doesn't is moving water which is beautiful if you want to take a picture. And, natural trout, not those raised in hatcheries may be better tasing than crappie, regardless crappie is awesome. So, yeah. I stand by my original comment.

You have never been trout fishing, or been with someone that knows what they are doing.

First off, trout have a reputation for being finicky that is a fabrication. Much of the year, they are very easy to catch. You see them - you know exactly where to put the *fly* (not lure). I stopped wearing a vest years ago, I take an Altoids box filled with 15 flies or so and only wear hip waders. The guys that wear the vest and full waders and clank around are tourists. You wear the hippers only to cross the stream, rarely do you stand in it. And you know what that cold stream water is good for? "Sinking" beer. Throw a couple in there where you start and come back to get them when the evening hatch is over, and you have a couple of cold beers.

If you are fishing a dry to feeding trout, you only need to roughly match the size of the fly they are eating. If the bugs you see flying around are a size 16 hook, then anything between a 14-18 work. I prefer one style of fly - a parachute pattern - because of the way it rides in the water. I tie my own, and splay the tail. It's silhouette in the water is more realistic, but more than anything the splayed tail allows the fly to float better. Or, of you just want to fish subsurface, throw on something around a size 14 and you are good to go. Sometimes I change flies only because I've caught several fish in a row (like on consecutive casts ... not finicky) and then they stop. When that happens, change flies and throw it in the same area and you will often catch several more. Then repeat until you run out of flies, and then tie the first one on and they will start hitting that. Not smart.

I used to own a house a mile from a wonderful little spring creek in Southwest Wisconsin, in the summer I'd run down there at about 7pm and tell my wife to fire the grill up at 8. I'd go down to the bridge, catch a couple of 12" browns and then come back up and wrap them in foil and butter and lemon and throw them on the grill. Easiest fish in the world to clean - split the belly and reach underneath the jaw and grab the gills and pull. Everything comes out with one pull - you don't need to scale them so in no more than a minute I can have the fish gutted and on the grill. Leaving the head on is done for both speed and to give it a bit of class. When you eat them the meat just falls off the bones like a steak.

Crappie ... what a pain in the ass. Cleaning them is a pain, eating them is a pain, you have to bread them ....

Catfish? Yuck.

[wart57]

i've basically become pescatarian since last june partially because i didn't/don't care for the treatment of "food" animals. i also wasn't sure how well my body processed it after all these years (felt bloated a lot, stomach pain, etc). i try not to eat fish either since it seems we are running out but i do like fish.

when i rationalize all this to myself i can see some hypocrisy but at the same time, there are many options (even in kansas) for a vegetarian/pescatarian so it really hasn't been a huge problem. as far as beef/chicken and all those options i haven't "missed" it at all.

the only other concern i have is that a lot of the vegetarian food that is supposed to be substitutes (boca burgers, etc)...you look at the label and it's all these chemical names so i don't know if thats even worse.

I've cut a lot of meat out of my diet, not for the reasons you did, but rather for preventative health measures (for lack of a better description). A couple days a week I'll try to go vegetarian. (What is pescatarian?) those days are basically limited to any conglomeration of the following foods: peanut butter, eggs and Amy's Soup. Oddly enough, I really don't miss meat all that much and it's extremely easy. I guess it helps that it's only a day or two at a time though.

I think there is something to the idea that vegetarians/vegans/whatever in general eat better than mainstream america. Of course, mainstream America is content wolfing down 3 McDoubles, a small fry and coke for $5 at McDonals for lunch....so....yeah.

You lookin at me?

It is actually 2 McDoubles and a 32 oz Dew from Quick trip, but damn close.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

down 3 McDoubles, a small fry and coke for $5 at McDonals for lunch....so....yeah.

You lookin at me?

It is actually 2 McDoubles and a 32 oz Dew from Quick trip, but damn close.

Ha. No, looking at a guy I work with.

[wart57]

down 3 McDoubles, a small fry and coke for $5 at McDonals for lunch....so....yeah.

You lookin at me?

It is actually 2 McDoubles and a 32 oz Dew from Quick trip, but damn close.

Ha. No, looking at a guy I work with.

Mine is cheaper, it is $3.05 for lunch.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

down 3 McDoubles, a small fry and coke for $5 at McDonals for lunch....so....yeah.

You lookin at me?

It is actually 2 McDoubles and a 32 oz Dew from Quick trip, but damn close.

Ha. No, looking at a guy I work with.

Mine is cheaper, it is $3.05 for lunch.

I really think you can eat McDonals cheaper than you can shop for food. 4 mcdoubles a day is more than enough to survive. And that is $4.

[heyzeus]

I remember when I learned that when you smell something, what's happening is tiny little particles of the thing you smell are entering your nose and mouth.

So when you smell a fart or [expletive] or rotten egg, it's because bits of those things are all up in your business and you're basically consuming them.

[lukethedrifter]

I really think you can eat McDonals cheaper than you can shop for food. 4 mcdoubles a day is more than enough to survive. And that is $4.

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