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Full House

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You mother [expletive]. Don't you know the spoiler tag is just begging me to click on it? And I was going to watch Father Goose starring Carey Grant tonight, now you ruined it!

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Fat_Bulldog wrote:Full House
the episode where stephanie becomes a methhead was especially powerful

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the episode where stephanie becomes a methhead was especially powerful
Yeah, I was kind of hoping her and Joey would turn her out.

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:
jim wrote:
ghostrunner wrote:The more I think about Walt's video, the less sense it makes.
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Hank would have a lot of resources at his disposal to disprove that story. Timelines, phone records, firsthand accounts of Walt/Heisenberg. The evidence against Walt might be circumstantial or hearsay, but there'd be nothing tangible against Hank. I must be missing what's so damning about the hospital bills, especially considering that Hank wouldn't need Walt to pay for anything in the scenario laid out. I suppose Walt could know that he's just throwing up a temporary roadblock.

I continue to get tripped up on the ricin storyline. I get it, but then I think of something else that happened with it and I reconsider. If I had seen those episodes more recently it might have been clearer at first.
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Hospital bills: Where did the money come from? Hank doesn't make that kind of money.

And I'm confused to on the ricin thing. Why was Jesse so pissed again?
I agree about the ricin thing. I is confused.
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Regarding the confession.....Walt has all the leverage. His money is safe and therefore his family is in good hands. Hell, the carwash alone could probably keep them going. And, Walt could just disappear/die/whatever. If Hank is even suspected of being guilty, he loses everything. Well, he loses his job...which for him is everything. He is afraid of even telling co-workers at the DEA what he suspects because that alone could get him fired unless he has proof. What is Hank without his job? I mean, assuming he disproved everything to the point of avoiding jailtime, he still loses his job.....and then what. Go flip burgers?
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No way. Marie is right. There are tons of ways Walt could still get caught, and then Hank is really screwed. There are people who have seen Walt doing Heisenberg business, some of which Hank could go run down. Los Pollos employees, the workers above the super lab, gang members at that place where Walt blew up the top floor. And all of this has happened within the space of a year or so. Never mind potential loose ends like Jesse, Lydia, Todd, etc... There's a ton of circumstantial evidence against Walt and really nothing against Hank except Walter's word. All Hank would need to do is play up all the ways they could go down. Skyler at least would be a fool not to realize that. Not to mention that if Hank did somehow get convicted, Walt would still go to jail. Also, Hank would get credit for everything, and I wonder how that would sit with Walt long term.

I think it's a good idea to try and discourage Hank and keep him busy working out how to defend himself, but I think it's not the foolproof work of genius some fans seem to be making it out to be. Either way, it was a hell of a scene.

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ghostrunner wrote:
AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:
jim wrote:
ghostrunner wrote:The more I think about Walt's video, the less sense it makes.
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Hank would have a lot of resources at his disposal to disprove that story. Timelines, phone records, firsthand accounts of Walt/Heisenberg. The evidence against Walt might be circumstantial or hearsay, but there'd be nothing tangible against Hank. I must be missing what's so damning about the hospital bills, especially considering that Hank wouldn't need Walt to pay for anything in the scenario laid out. I suppose Walt could know that he's just throwing up a temporary roadblock.

I continue to get tripped up on the ricin storyline. I get it, but then I think of something else that happened with it and I reconsider. If I had seen those episodes more recently it might have been clearer at first.
[SHOW]
Hospital bills: Where did the money come from? Hank doesn't make that kind of money.

And I'm confused to on the ricin thing. Why was Jesse so pissed again?
I agree about the ricin thing. I is confused.
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Regarding the confession.....Walt has all the leverage. His money is safe and therefore his family is in good hands. Hell, the carwash alone could probably keep them going. And, Walt could just disappear/die/whatever. If Hank is even suspected of being guilty, he loses everything. Well, he loses his job...which for him is everything. He is afraid of even telling co-workers at the DEA what he suspects because that alone could get him fired unless he has proof. What is Hank without his job? I mean, assuming he disproved everything to the point of avoiding jailtime, he still loses his job.....and then what. Go flip burgers?
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No way. Marie is right. There are tons of ways Walt could still get caught, and then Hank is really screwed. There are people who have seen Walt doing Heisenberg business, some of which Hank could go run down. Los Pollos employees, the workers above the super lab, gang members at that place where Walt blew up the top floor. And all of this has happened within the space of a year or so. Never mind potential loose ends like Jesse, Lydia, Todd, etc... There's a ton of circumstantial evidence against Walt and really nothing against Hank except Walter's word. All Hank would need to do is play up all the ways they could go down. Skyler at least would be a fool not to realize that. Not to mention that if Hank did somehow get convicted, Walt would still go to jail. Also, Hank would get credit for everything, and I wonder how that would sit with Walt long term.

I think it's a good idea to try and discourage Hank and keep him busy working out how to defend himself, but I think it's not the foolproof work of genius some fans seem to be making it out to be. Either way, it was a hell of a scene.
I think you have to assume Hank has exhausted all those revenues already. If catching Heisenberg were as simple as talking to some nobodies, well, then....why didn't he do that?

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:
ghostrunner wrote:
AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:
jim wrote:
ghostrunner wrote:The more I think about Walt's video, the less sense it makes.
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Hank would have a lot of resources at his disposal to disprove that story. Timelines, phone records, firsthand accounts of Walt/Heisenberg. The evidence against Walt might be circumstantial or hearsay, but there'd be nothing tangible against Hank. I must be missing what's so damning about the hospital bills, especially considering that Hank wouldn't need Walt to pay for anything in the scenario laid out. I suppose Walt could know that he's just throwing up a temporary roadblock.

I continue to get tripped up on the ricin storyline. I get it, but then I think of something else that happened with it and I reconsider. If I had seen those episodes more recently it might have been clearer at first.
[SHOW]
Hospital bills: Where did the money come from? Hank doesn't make that kind of money.

And I'm confused to on the ricin thing. Why was Jesse so pissed again?
I agree about the ricin thing. I is confused.
[SHOW]
Regarding the confession.....Walt has all the leverage. His money is safe and therefore his family is in good hands. Hell, the carwash alone could probably keep them going. And, Walt could just disappear/die/whatever. If Hank is even suspected of being guilty, he loses everything. Well, he loses his job...which for him is everything. He is afraid of even telling co-workers at the DEA what he suspects because that alone could get him fired unless he has proof. What is Hank without his job? I mean, assuming he disproved everything to the point of avoiding jailtime, he still loses his job.....and then what. Go flip burgers?
[SHOW]
No way. Marie is right. There are tons of ways Walt could still get caught, and then Hank is really screwed. There are people who have seen Walt doing Heisenberg business, some of which Hank could go run down. Los Pollos employees, the workers above the super lab, gang members at that place where Walt blew up the top floor. And all of this has happened within the space of a year or so. Never mind potential loose ends like Jesse, Lydia, Todd, etc... There's a ton of circumstantial evidence against Walt and really nothing against Hank except Walter's word. All Hank would need to do is play up all the ways they could go down. Skyler at least would be a fool not to realize that. Not to mention that if Hank did somehow get convicted, Walt would still go to jail. Also, Hank would get credit for everything, and I wonder how that would sit with Walt long term.

I think it's a good idea to try and discourage Hank and keep him busy working out how to defend himself, but I think it's not the foolproof work of genius some fans seem to be making it out to be. Either way, it was a hell of a scene.
I think you have to assume Hank has exhausted all those revenues already. If catching Heisenberg were as simple as talking to some nobodies, well, then....why didn't he do that?
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Again, it's been a year, and the DEA has gone through Crazy 8, Tuco, Gus, and hadn't even caught on to Declan's crew yet as far as I know. Plenty of work to do, and I think there's been some debate as to whether Heisenberg is even real. Now you've got a picture of Walt you can take around, what kind of car he drove, check security footage at the places he would have driven to or near. Ask if him and Pinkman have been seen together. It's been all of a week or so since Hank found out about Walt.

If I'm Hank, I'd just come back and tell Walt to go ahead and try and see what happens. Either way Hank's at risk of losing his job, and if he doesn't confess that he knew he's potentially in trouble for withholding information.

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i always thought there should be some evidence at the retirement home where hector salamanca blew up gus fring. wouldnt walt need to sign in or anything to go visit him? wouldn't there be video evidence of him going into hectors room when he came up with the plan to put a bomb on his wheelchair?

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Secret Weapon wrote:
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i always thought there should be some evidence at the retirement home where hector salamanca blew up gus fring. wouldnt walt need to sign in or anything to go visit him? wouldn't there be video evidence of him going into hectors room when he came up with the plan to put a bomb on his wheelchair?
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No, I really don't think so. I've never been to a nursing home where I had to sign in. Video surveillance would be sketchy, too. Some places would definitely have it. Some wouldn't. I don't think you have to suspend reality to just assume they didn't have surveillance. Hector wouldn't be in some up-scale place.

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wouldnt there at least be a worker that could identify walt as the last person to enter hector salamancas room before it blew up?

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