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The Breaking Bad issue is yield, not taste/effectiveness. The higher the %, the greater the yield, the more money made per batch.

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:
haltz wrote:I really struggle with suspension of disbelief, but if you are complaining about it wrt Breaking Bad, you need to just stop watching television and movies.
Breaking Bad may not be unbelievable compared to say True Blood. But it's plenty unbelievable in its own regard.

Regardless, your point is valid, the creators or whoever do a pretty good job keeping it real, and that's why, imo, you just have to assume that Hank doesn't have 50 people running around that can I.D. Walt. If he did, he'd have leaned on them and made a solid case.

Thus, and back to the original point, Hank doesn't have the upper hand/leverage, Walt does. And, if Hank does just have an army of guys that can identify Walt, the show is really beyond stupid at this point..

Just to reiterate, I'm not complaining about plotholes. One of the things the show does well is maintain focus on Walt and Jesse, so a lot of the contrivances just don't matter that much. We only give a [expletive] about a small portion of the world. So we accept that Walt is just that valuable.

We'll have to disagree about who has the upper hand.
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The worst that can happen to Hank is he loses his job, and it seems like he's ready to accept the risk. He's taking the shortest route by using his closest associate, who just happens to now hate Walt's guts. Plus, Hank still has to worry that if Walt is discovered some other way (if Lydia was caught, she'd turn on him in two seconds) then Walt could still resort to using that video and/or the DEA would fire him for not revealing the information. He's really got nothing to lose. It doesn't do much other than it gets Hank busy building up his own case, or there's an outside chance he just drops the issue altogether.

This is a pretty good article from the AV Club w/r/t the plotholes. Does a better job of saying what I said above. It occurs to me that Hannibal works very much the same way. It's full of plotholes, and almost ignores that there's an outside world altogether. The focus is so tight and consistent the rest just doesn't matter.


http://www.avclub.com/articles/how-brea ... er,101278/
One of Breaking Bad’s greatest strengths is something that has been the greatest weakness of almost every other show that has attempted such a thing: It takes place in a clockwork universe. The “clockwork universe” is a storytelling world where every single character and element is meant to contribute to the overall forward thrust of the story and its attendant themes. The characters may have rich inner lives. They may seem to have free will. But the more the workings of the story are poked at and pulled apart, the more the characters are revealed to primarily be there to play specific roles within it....


It’s remarkably difficult to build a clockwork universe on television, even at a relatively small scale. Take, for instance, the one and only season of FlashForward, which set for itself an impossible task—show the finished picture of the puzzle via an unexpected time jump that everybody on Earth experiences all at once, then figure out how the characters come together to form that picture. Unsurprisingly, the mechanical nature of the plot was underlined over and over again, and the characters were never allowed to take flight because the audience was constantly reminded of how they fit into the plot, rather than how the plot was built around them. Most serialized TV shows use a sort of constant expansion. The ensemble cast grows to encompass more and more characters and settings. If it’s a show with mysteries, then more mysteries are piled on. And by the end of everything, there’s no good way to wrap up absolutely every plot thread in a satisfying fashion...


What Breaking Bad has pulled off so brilliantly—that has saved it time and again from locking into the rigidity of clockwork plotting—is an intense, almost maniacal focus on its central arc and its central theme. As in Shakespeare’s greatest plays, nearly everything ties back to the central story, no matter how tangential it seems. No matter how huge the universe of Breaking Bad gets, everything that happens in it and every new encounter Walter White has is driven by that choice Walter made in the first episode to cook meth. In that moment, his fate was sealed, and everything that has happened since has been inevitable, driven by his tragic flaw. (Now we’re back to the Greeks again.) Just as Hamlet had his indecision, and Othello had his envy, Walter White has his intense, driving pride, a pride that has curdled into a terrifying bitterness after years of being locked away inside. When he cooks meth, it emerges with almost supernatural fury, and everyone and everything around him is subsumed in that fury....

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:This weeks episode was pretty sweet.
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After Jesse and Hank linked up I kind of thought I knew where things were headed, but bringing Gomez in the loop complicates things. I still think it's a good bet that the machine gun in the trunk has Todd's name on it.

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wasn't sure where to put...
(Reuters) - Cable and satellite customers beware. Prepare for more blackouts of major stations and keep a close eye on that cable bill.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/ ... 0520130904

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I honestly thought last week's was the worst episode of BB since it started.

I hope they turn it around the last 4 episodes.

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True Blood Season 7 will be its last.

Yes, i still watch that [expletive].

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phins wrote:I honestly thought last week's was the worst episode of BB since it started.

I hope they turn it around the last 4 episodes.

Agreed. Assuming you mean "since it started" to be the last 4 episodes

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phins wrote:I honestly thought last week's was the worst episode of BB since it started.

I hope they turn it around the last 4 episodes.

Agreed. Assuming you mean "since it started" to be the last 4 episodes

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jim wrote:Anybody watch Mountain Men on History Channel? I [expletive] love this show. This is how I see myself, trapping and fishing and hunting and fixing [expletive] and building [expletive] like fires and cabins and cutting down trees and chasing away a mountain lion off my property.

Never mind I'm a complete whiny [expletive] with weather below 40 degrees.
The MArty guy that traps by himself in BFE Alaska..... How the hell does he survive? 1. He seems like a complete idiot, trying to jump over downed trees and what not. 2. He drives around all day and seemingly doesn't trap much, one scene shows he only has a small trash bag full, and then he has to fly back. I'm sure he does better than the show let's on, but gosh dang it doesn't look like he'd even break even.

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Final episode of Futurama tonight. I haven't watched in a while but I'm going to tune in to see if they reunite Fry with his dog because they just have to.

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