The Guvmint Shutdown

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Joe Shlabotnik wrote:
pioneer98 wrote:http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... wn/280220/
“We’re not going to be disrespected,” conservative Rep. Marlin Stutzman, R-Ind., [told the Washington Examiner]. “We have to get something out of this. And I don’t know what that even is.”
This is governing? Hey [expletive] - the world is watching you make an ass out of your country.
[expletive] [expletive] [expletive] [expletive] balls. This is so [expletive] stupid.

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How is it even possible to reason with people like that?

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IMADreamer wrote:How is it even possible to reason with people like that?
You can't. And I'm happy to see Harry Reid treating them like you have to treat any hostage takers. No negotiation. Or else they'll just do it again. These 'strict constitutionalists' are playing a very dangerous game which threatens the very style of democratic government they pay lip service to uphold.

The fact is these folks don't like, and haven't liked, the direction the country has gone - many since the civil rights era - and they are now at the point where they want to destroy the system rather than work within the rules of the system. Reid is right not to give in.

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Some real consequences...A lot of people were not getting WIC to feed their babies due to the shutdown. "Non-essential" I guess. I know people who were getting WIC. They'd get a monthly amount, but only enough money to pay for about 2 weeks of formula. They have to cover the other 2 weeks themselves, and for a lot of them even that was a struggle. Oh well.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/10/02/go ... ms-babies/

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pioneer98 wrote:Some real consequences...A lot of people were not getting WIC to feed their babies due to the shutdown. "Non-essential" I guess. I know people who were getting WIC. They'd get a monthly amount, but only enough money to pay for about 2 weeks of formula. They have to cover the other 2 weeks themselves, and for a lot of them even that was a struggle. Oh well.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/10/02/go ... ms-babies/

True, but at least this shutdown prevented Obamacare from taking effect.


Oh wait..........

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I have no idea what these idiots hope to achieve. All this is doing is exposing a part of the Republican Party to ridicule and hatred. It makes no sense to keep fighting a losing battle..

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wart57 wrote:I have no idea what these idiots hope to achieve. All this is doing is exposing a part of the Republican Party to ridicule and hatred. It makes no sense to keep fighting a losing battle..
While this is true there is plenty of blame being hurled at the Democrats too. So I think they are achieving their goal of making the Democrats look like the ones who will not negotiate.

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IMADreamer wrote:
wart57 wrote:I have no idea what these idiots hope to achieve. All this is doing is exposing a part of the Republican Party to ridicule and hatred. It makes no sense to keep fighting a losing battle..
While this is true there is plenty of blame being hurled at the Democrats too. So I think they are achieving their goal of making the Democrats look like the ones who will not negotiate.

Yeah, my conservative friends aren't even considering that the Republicans caused this. Hasn't even crossed their mind.

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Well, even Fox News is starting to blame Republicans so I bet your friends come around soon.

Republicans have already won so why won't they compromise?

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Where Republicans are really messing up with this strategy is with Indpendent voters, who are still a big block. Yeah, conservative voters don't care, and/or blame Democrats. Democrats blame Republicans, but more and more Independent voters are looking like Democrats:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/01/s ... -shutdown/
Republicans supported the government shutdown by a 49-44 percent margin while opposition was 90-6 among Democrats and 74-19 among independent voters, the poll found.
Republicans need independent voters to win elections, at least presidential elections and other "purple state" elections. They don't seem to care.

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