The Guvmint Shutdown

[heyzeus]

The Tea Party will continue in influence as long as oil rich billionaires can give unlimited money to any politician they want to do what they want, or tell that politician they'll give unlimited money to their primary opponent if they don't do what they want.

So basically, forever. We're perma- [expletive] unless Citizens United is ever reversed.

[Freed Roger]

If I could order government off an ala carte menu, I am pretty sure my government would be smaller and the bill cheaper than extremist tea party bills. And to boot - just as recklessly naïve, self-serving inequitable, unworkable, and rife with negative unforeseen consequences.

[cardsfansince82]

Sounds like the GOP is starting to turn on the Teabags a little bit.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html

[stlouie_lipp]

Sounds like the GOP is starting to turn on the Teabags a little bit.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html

good.

[MrSaigon]

Sounds like the GOP is starting to turn on the Teabags a little bit.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html

Shoot. Judging from that article, we may need Citizens United around until the Tea Party's been trimmed out a bit. All the opposition is from businesses leaders and groups. But then so was all the support. The only solution is an Anchorman style fight.

[Freed Roger]

[docellis]

[Joe Shlabotnik]

"Anger Can Be Power".

The depth and strength of voters’ conviction that their opponents are determined to destroy their way of life has rarely been matched...

A lot of Americans were not ready for a mixed-race president. They weren’t ready for gay marriage. They weren’t ready for the wave of legal and illegal immigration that redefined American demographics over the past two or three decades, bringing in lots of nonwhites. They weren’t ready — who was? — for the brutal effects of globalization on working- and middle-class Americans or the devastating fallout from the financial crisis.

Their representatives didn’t stop Obamacare. And their side didn’t “take back America” in 2012 as Fox News and conservative radio personalities led them to believe they would. They feel the culture is running away from them (and they’re mostly right). They lack the power to control their own government. But they still have just enough to shut it down.

Voters like this, according to the report, are convinced they have lost the larger battle:

While many voters, including plenty of Democrats, question whether Obama is succeeding and getting his agenda done, Republicans think he has won. The country as a whole may think gridlock has triumphed, particularly in the midst of a Republican-led government shutdown, but Republicans see a president who has fooled and manipulated the public, lied, and gotten his secret socialist-Marxist agenda done. Republicans and their kind of Americans are losing.

[lukethedrifter]

It is affecting breweries. Heavy Riff in Dogtown unable to get approval to brew onsite due to shutdown.

...where's my pitchfork

MILWAUKEE • The federal government shutdown could leave America's craft brewers with a serious hangover.

Stores will still offer plenty of suds. But the shutdown has closed an obscure agency that quietly approves new breweries, recipes and labels, which could create huge delays throughout the rapidly growing craft industry, whose customers expect a constant supply of inventive and seasonal beers.

Mike Brenner is trying to open a craft brewery in Milwaukee by December. His application to include a tasting room is now on hold, as are his plans to file paperwork for four labels over the next few weeks. He expects to lose about $8,000 for every month his opening is delayed.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... d89ed.html

[Freed Roger]

tea drinkers response ? "well...there shouldn't be those agencies regulating brewers in the first place...so there"*


*a play off Bernie Miklasz internet-crazy argument