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Re: Richard Sherman

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Here's why I didn't like what he said. He got outplayed by Crabtree for most of the game. He was beat on that play too and it would have been a touchdown if the ball wasn't a hair under thrown by the QB, not Crabtree. He basically had no position to be talking [expletive] about anything. He made one play, a play that easily could have become irrelevant if his teammate wasn't there to complete the interception. But instead of being humble and realizing all of that and being happy his team won, he made it all about him and his stupid contrived beef with one other guy. I hope that doesn't make me too stuffy or racist or whatever.

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im guessing he's happy his team won.

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Jocephus wrote:im guessing he's happy his team won.
That is somewhere on his list of things to consider. It certainly wasn't at the top. In my opinion, considering the stakes, it SHOULD be at the top.


This is a pointless argument. I don't know why you're beating the drum for a guy who behaves like that, and why you really can't understand why people think he should have acted more maturely. I guess it doesn't matter. As I've said all along, he has every right to use his 15 seconds however he chooses, but don't create storm clouds and then [expletive] because it starts raining. Man up and own it.

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Re: the terms "thug" and "savagely" or "ravagely."
None are inherently racist and assuming intent behind usage without context of body language, tone of voice, etc is not fair. Accusing someone of racism is a serious thing and when done so explicitly or even implying it, it removes almost any chance of a constructive dialog.

It's totally fair to find interpret Sherman's post-game interview as self-aggrandizing, un-sportsmanlike, rude, disrespectful towards Crabtree or just disrespectful towards the sport or whatever without being racist. It's also totally valid to find what he did entertaining, shrewd or even something you wished happened more often in sports.

I personally thought it was amusing, but I changed the channel halfway through his rant because I was like, "alright dude, settle down."

"Who cares?" is probably the most reasonable response, but ultimately I won't tell someone what they should or shouldn't care about. I just think it's important to avoid the typical patterns of behavior that are so easy to fall into during hot-button discussions like this - projecting meaning behind other people's comments where none was intended, escalating your arguments with increasingly polarized stances based on the arguments of others rather than your actual feelings and beliefs, falling into semantic traps instead of discussing the actual issues etc.

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Re: Richard Sherman

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im not beating the drum for him (this, honestly, is my first real exposure to him). however, i refuse to make personal judgements about him as a man based on a 15 sec interview right after, perhaps the most important game of his career, just ended, on a play he was directly involved in, in a sport that demands aggresion.

i probably wouldn't have done an interview like that either, if i was in his position. but its such a trivial aspect of a trivial part of our lives (sports) that it baffles me he is getting this sort of condemnation.

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I am so confused.


Was the reason he made the play because he is the greatest cornerback in the league, or was it because Crabtree is a sorry, mediocre receiver?

Also, I thought "thug Life" was a good thing, or does it only mean that when Tupac says it?


I am just too damn white I guess.

I wish we would just do as Sherman asks and never talk about him.

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Socnorb11 wrote:
Jocephus wrote:im guessing he's happy his team won.
That is somewhere on his list of things to consider. It certainly wasn't at the top. In my opinion, considering the stakes, it SHOULD be at the top.
That's just like your opinion, man.

I mean literally, there's nothing to back that up in the slightest.

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Re: Richard Sherman

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Jocephus wrote:im not beating the drum for him (this, honestly, is my first real exposure to him). however, i refuse to make personal judgements about him as a man based on a 15 sec interview right after, perhaps the most important game of his career, just ended, on a play he was directly involved in, in a sport that demands aggresion.

Do some research, and then make a personal judgment. This isn't an isolated incident.

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Re: Richard Sherman

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heyzeus wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
Jocephus wrote:im guessing he's happy his team won.
That is somewhere on his list of things to consider. It certainly wasn't at the top. In my opinion, considering the stakes, it SHOULD be at the top.
That's just like your opinion, man.

I mean literally, there's nothing to back that up in the slightest.

I typically say what's on my mind in the heat of the moment, but you're right, I could be wrong.

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Re: Richard Sherman

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Socnorb11 wrote:
heyzeus wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
Jocephus wrote:im guessing he's happy his team won.
That is somewhere on his list of things to consider. It certainly wasn't at the top. In my opinion, considering the stakes, it SHOULD be at the top.
That's just like your opinion, man.

I mean literally, there's nothing to back that up in the slightest.

I typically say what's on my mind in the heat of the moment, but you're right, I could be wrong.
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