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jim wrote:Coburn with less than a gracious moment there. Not that he doesn't have a point, but not the time or place.

Yeah, I cringed a little bit there.

Is not running all 3 legs a big deal? I mean, is it really that important to rest the horse between races?

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It is hard on the horses. Horses aren't really meant to be run this hard for this long, doing so really takes it's toll. And these races are long, the shortest is the second leg and it's still 1 3/16 which is pretty long. When these horses are done, if they weren't on the drug Lasix they would be probably be bleeding from the nostrils from hemorrhaging in the lungs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise-i ... hemorrhage). Racing is very hard on horses, this is why they have very few training runs where they really blow it out between races, and when they do it will typically be 1/2 mile or so. When Secretariat pulled away from Sham at the Belmont in '73, Sham had also ran the two previous races.

But having said that, if Secretariat or Seattle Slew or Affirmed or most any other Triple Crown winner spun out of the last turn like California Chrome did today with room to run, the other horses would have been getting a face full of dirt kicked in their faces down the stretch. Yes it's true that fresh legs are an advantage, but if Chrome were a true champion he would have won today.

The fact is, California Chrome was the best of a lackluster bunch of horses. I was hoping for him because of the story, but he is not a great horse. There have been many horses that lost at Belmont in the last leg that were a better horse than this horse.

I think the owner has a gripe, and I understand his disappointment and all, but it would have been nice if he could have bit his tongue. I'll bet if Penny Chenery had lost with Secretariat, she would have lost with grace.

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Even though it makes him look like a sore loser, I kind of agree w him. Of course, if a horse had to run all three legs to be in the Belmont, you'd have about 5 horses every year.

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Horse racing is a cruel, cruel "sport."

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:Even though it makes him look like a sore loser, I kind of agree w him. Of course, if a horse had to run all three legs to be in the Belmont, you'd have about 5 horses every year.
5 horses? That would be a boring race nobody would remember.

http://www.horseracingnation.com/race/1 ... _Stakes_G1

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Ha. Those secretariat races are amazing. The one race that sticks out in my mind, somewhat recently, with a horse that was clearly a man among boys was Big Brown at the Derby and the Preakness. You just saw him hit the turbo button coming into the last turn both times and it was all over.

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i wholeheartedly agree with coburn's rant even though it came off as sore-losery

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Watching a horse hit that turbo button is like watching a MLB pitcher just dialing up 100 mph heat and nobody having a chance.

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jim wrote:Watching a horse hit that turbo button is like watching a MLB pitcher just dialing up 100 mph heat and nobody having a chance.
Exactly, and CC couldn't do it Saturday at the Belmont. I understand where the owner is coming from, but CC could have won that race if he was 'special'. To ask for none of the other horses to have that turbo button at the end is really silly, even if they probably wouldn't if they ran all three races.

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Apparently, the Maryland Jockey Club is asking for the Preakness to get pushed back to the first weekend in June. The hope is the Belmont would follow suit and get moved to the first weekend in July.

It certainly wouldn't guarantee a Triple Crown, but we'd at least have a puncher's chance of seeing one.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/changing-t ... 20100.html

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