Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect

[Schlich]

omg quit it with the false equivalencies. Besides the logical fallacies, they're not even good analogies to begin with.

[Socnorb11]

omg quit it with the false equivalencies. Besides the logical fallacies, they're not even good analogies to begin with.

Only because you're convicted to believe that Dungy's intentions were ethically motivated, even though there's no evidence of that. You WANT a story here that doesn't exist, so you're going to ignore anything that doesn't fit the mold.

[Jocephus]

That's fine, Freed. Sherman stating that San Francisco was the second best team in the NFL (based on one game played against them) is nothing more than his opinion (and yours, apparently). It doesn't make it factual.

Sherman is a loudmouth, quite frankly.

tony dungy thinking MS would be a distraction is nothing more than his opinion (and yours). it doesn't make it factual.

dungy is an evangelical christian, quite frankly.

[Socnorb11]

What on earth is your point, Jocephus?

[thrill]

NBC should fire Dungy??? For what??

Ftr, I've changed my mind after listening to Dungy on Dan Patrick. I'd fire him, but that's because I don't think he's a good enough football analyst to deal with the headaches his using his platform to spread his religious beliefs cause. Ex-coaches who don't say anything substantive about the game are a dime a dozen. I don't necessarily think it's an issue if NBC doesn't agree with that, at this point. He was a victim of selective reporting. He should have been smart enough to say he'd have drafted him if he was good enough, but instead he stepped into an obvious trap and then was confused when it was sprung.

Here's the full interview:

omg quit it with the false equivalencies. Besides the logical fallacies, they're not even good analogies to begin with.

Only because you're convicted to believe that Dungy's intentions were ethically motivated, even though there's no evidence of that.

It absolutely is ethically motivated. Go to 4:58 of that interview.

You're just as stubbornly ignoring Dungy's track record of moral pontification as Schlich and others are assuming it's a factor.

Dungy thinks he's entitled to spread his divisive beliefs and project his morality onto other, law abiding people without repercussion but Sam shouldn't be able to do the same. He thinks Sam should have to settle for unequal treatment and protection under the law and be happy about it. That's hypocrisy. That's inexcusable. If he truly believes he's entitled to that double standard, he's delusional. If he doesn't recognize the double standard, he's stupid. Either way, I don't want to hear from him again. To be fair, I didn't want to before.

[Jocephus]

What on earth is your point, Jocephus?

i dont even know anymore. it seemed funny at the time. i apologize for the distraction.

[JackofDiamonds]

There are Rockies fans out there that would kill for a distraction.

[JL21]

What on earth is your point, Jocephus?

i dont even know anymore. it seemed funny at the time. i apologize for the distraction.

(baggage)

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

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Year	Age	Tm	Lg	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	OPS+	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB	Pos	Awards
1954	20	MLN	NL	122	509	468	58	131	27	6	13	69	2	2	28	39	.280	.322	.447	.769	104	209	13	3	6	4		*79	RoY-4
1955 ★	21	MLN	NL	153	665	602	105	189	37	9	27	106	3	1	49	61	.314	.366	.540	.906	141	325	20	3	7	4	5	*974	AS,MVP-9
1956 ★	22	MLN	NL	153	660	609	106	200	34	14	26	92	2	4	37	54	.328	.365	.558	.923	151	340	21	2	5	7	6	*9	AS,MVP-3
1957 ★	23	MLN	NL	151	675	615	118	198	27	6	44	132	1	1	57	58	.322	.378	.600	.978	166	369	13	0	0	3	15	*98	AS,MVP-1
1958 ★	24	MLN	NL	153	664	601	109	196	34	4	30	95	4	1	59	49	.326	.386	.546	.931	152	328	21	1	0	3	16	*98	AS,MVP-3,GG
1959 ★	25	MLN	NL	154	693	629	116	223	46	7	39	123	8	0	51	54	.355	.401	.636	1.037	182	400	19	4	0	9	17	*98/5	AS,MVP-3,GG
1960 ★	26	MLN	NL	153	664	590	102	172	20	11	40	126	16	7	60	63	.292	.352	.566	.919	156	334	8	2	0	12	13	*9/84	AS,MVP-11,GG
1961 ★	27	MLN	NL	155	671	603	115	197	39	10	34	120	21	9	56	64	.327	.381	.594	.974	163	358	16	2	1	9	20	*89/5	AS,MVP-8
1962 ★	28	MLN	NL	156	667	592	127	191	28	6	45	128	15	7	66	73	.323	.390	.618	1.008	170	366	14	3	0	6	14	*89/3	AS,MVP-6
1963 ★	29	MLN	NL	161	714	631	121	201	29	4	44	130	31	5	78	94	.319	.391	.586	.977	179	370	11	0	0	5	18	*9	AS,MVP-3
1964 ★	30	MLN	NL	145	634	570	103	187	30	2	24	95	22	4	62	46	.328	.393	.514	.907	153	293	22	0	0	2	9	*94	AS,MVP-14
1965 ★	31	MLN	NL	150	639	570	109	181	40	1	32	89	24	4	60	81	.318	.379	.560	.938	161	319	15	1	0	8	10	*9	AS,MVP-7
1966 ★	32	ATL	NL	158	688	603	117	168	23	1	44	127	21	3	76	96	.279	.356	.539	.895	142	325	14	1	0	8	15	*9/84	AS,MVP-8
1967 ★	33	ATL	NL	155	669	600	113	184	37	3	39	109	17	6	63	97	.307	.369	.573	.943	168	344	11	0	0	6	19	*98/4	AS,MVP-5
1968 ★	34	ATL	NL	160	676	606	84	174	33	4	29	86	28	5	64	62	.287	.354	.498	.852	153	302	21	1	0	5	23	*93	AS,MVP-12
1969 ★	35	ATL	NL	147	639	547	100	164	30	3	44	97	9	10	87	47	.300	.396	.607	1.003	177	332	14	2	0	3	19	*9/3	AS,MVP-3
1970 ★	36	ATL	NL	150	598	516	103	154	26	1	38	118	9	0	74	63	.298	.385	.574	.958	149	296	13	2	0	6	15	*93	AS,MVP-17
1971 ★	37	ATL	NL	139	573	495	95	162	22	3	47	118	1	1	71	58	.327	.410	.669	1.079	194	331	9	2	0	5	21	39	AS,MVP-3
1972 ★	38	ATL	NL	129	545	449	75	119	10	0	34	77	4	0	92	55	.265	.390	.514	.904	147	231	17	1	0	2	15	*39	AS,MVP-16
1973 ★	39	ATL	NL	120	465	392	84	118	12	1	40	96	1	1	68	51	.301	.402	.643	1.045	177	252	7	1	0	4	13	79	AS,MVP-12
1974 ★	40	ATL	NL	112	382	340	47	91	16	0	20	69	1	0	39	29	.268	.341	.491	.832	128	167	6	0	1	2	6	7	AS
1975 ★	41	MIL	AL	137	543	465	45	109	16	2	12	60	0	1	70	51	.234	.332	.355	.687	95	165	15	1	1	6	3	*D/7	AS
1976	42	MIL	AL	85	308	271	22	62	8	0	10	35	0	1	35	38	.229	.315	.369	.684	102	100	8	0	0	2	1	D/7	

[Jocephus]

haha

BOOM ROASTED


although, i would like to add another to the list of distractions for teams. the entire baltimore ravens team and this offseason. aldon smith and his wise decisions also. but those arnt icky so they aren't real distractions.