Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect
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Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect
omg quit it with the false equivalencies. Besides the logical fallacies, they're not even good analogies to begin with.
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Schlich wrote:omg quit it with the false equivalencies. Besides the logical fallacies, they're not even good analogies to begin with.
Only because you're convicted to believe that Dungy's intentions were ethically motivated, even though there's no evidence of that. You WANT a story here that doesn't exist, so you're going to ignore anything that doesn't fit the mold.
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Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect
tony dungy thinking MS would be a distraction is nothing more than his opinion (and yours). it doesn't make it factual.Socnorb11 wrote:That's fine, Freed. Sherman stating that San Francisco was the second best team in the NFL (based on one game played against them) is nothing more than his opinion (and yours, apparently). It doesn't make it factual.
Sherman is a loudmouth, quite frankly.
dungy is an evangelical christian, quite frankly.
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Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect
What on earth is your point, Jocephus?
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Ftr, I've changed my mind after listening to Dungy on Dan Patrick. I'd fire him, but that's because I don't think he's a good enough football analyst to deal with the headaches his using his platform to spread his religious beliefs cause. Ex-coaches who don't say anything substantive about the game are a dime a dozen. I don't necessarily think it's an issue if NBC doesn't agree with that, at this point. He was a victim of selective reporting. He should have been smart enough to say he'd have drafted him if he was good enough, but instead he stepped into an obvious trap and then was confused when it was sprung.Socnorb11 wrote:NBC should fire Dungy??? For what??
Here's the full interview:
It absolutely is ethically motivated. Go to 4:58 of that interview.Socnorb11 wrote:Schlich wrote:omg quit it with the false equivalencies. Besides the logical fallacies, they're not even good analogies to begin with.
Only because you're convicted to believe that Dungy's intentions were ethically motivated, even though there's no evidence of that.
You're just as stubbornly ignoring Dungy's track record of moral pontification as Schlich and others are assuming it's a factor.
Dungy thinks he's entitled to spread his divisive beliefs and project his morality onto other, law abiding people without repercussion but Sam shouldn't be able to do the same. He thinks Sam should have to settle for unequal treatment and protection under the law and be happy about it. That's hypocrisy. That's inexcusable. If he truly believes he's entitled to that double standard, he's delusional. If he doesn't recognize the double standard, he's stupid. Either way, I don't want to hear from him again. To be fair, I didn't want to before.
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i dont even know anymore. it seemed funny at the time. i apologize for the distraction.Socnorb11 wrote:What on earth is your point, Jocephus?
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Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect
There are Rockies fans out there that would kill for a distraction.
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(baggage)Jocephus wrote:i dont even know anymore. it seemed funny at the time. i apologize for the distraction.Socnorb11 wrote:What on earth is your point, Jocephus?
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Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1954 20 MLN NL 122 509 468 58 131 27 6 13 69 2 2 28 39 .280 .322 .447 .769 104 209 13 3 6 4 *79 RoY-4
1955 ★ 21 MLN NL 153 665 602 105 189 37 9 27 106 3 1 49 61 .314 .366 .540 .906 141 325 20 3 7 4 5 *974 AS,MVP-9
1956 ★ 22 MLN NL 153 660 609 106 200 34 14 26 92 2 4 37 54 .328 .365 .558 .923 151 340 21 2 5 7 6 *9 AS,MVP-3
1957 ★ 23 MLN NL 151 675 615 118 198 27 6 44 132 1 1 57 58 .322 .378 .600 .978 166 369 13 0 0 3 15 *98 AS,MVP-1
1958 ★ 24 MLN NL 153 664 601 109 196 34 4 30 95 4 1 59 49 .326 .386 .546 .931 152 328 21 1 0 3 16 *98 AS,MVP-3,GG
1959 ★ 25 MLN NL 154 693 629 116 223 46 7 39 123 8 0 51 54 .355 .401 .636 1.037 182 400 19 4 0 9 17 *98/5 AS,MVP-3,GG
1960 ★ 26 MLN NL 153 664 590 102 172 20 11 40 126 16 7 60 63 .292 .352 .566 .919 156 334 8 2 0 12 13 *9/84 AS,MVP-11,GG
1961 ★ 27 MLN NL 155 671 603 115 197 39 10 34 120 21 9 56 64 .327 .381 .594 .974 163 358 16 2 1 9 20 *89/5 AS,MVP-8
1962 ★ 28 MLN NL 156 667 592 127 191 28 6 45 128 15 7 66 73 .323 .390 .618 1.008 170 366 14 3 0 6 14 *89/3 AS,MVP-6
1963 ★ 29 MLN NL 161 714 631 121 201 29 4 44 130 31 5 78 94 .319 .391 .586 .977 179 370 11 0 0 5 18 *9 AS,MVP-3
1964 ★ 30 MLN NL 145 634 570 103 187 30 2 24 95 22 4 62 46 .328 .393 .514 .907 153 293 22 0 0 2 9 *94 AS,MVP-14
1965 ★ 31 MLN NL 150 639 570 109 181 40 1 32 89 24 4 60 81 .318 .379 .560 .938 161 319 15 1 0 8 10 *9 AS,MVP-7
1966 ★ 32 ATL NL 158 688 603 117 168 23 1 44 127 21 3 76 96 .279 .356 .539 .895 142 325 14 1 0 8 15 *9/84 AS,MVP-8
1967 ★ 33 ATL NL 155 669 600 113 184 37 3 39 109 17 6 63 97 .307 .369 .573 .943 168 344 11 0 0 6 19 *98/4 AS,MVP-5
1968 ★ 34 ATL NL 160 676 606 84 174 33 4 29 86 28 5 64 62 .287 .354 .498 .852 153 302 21 1 0 5 23 *93 AS,MVP-12
1969 ★ 35 ATL NL 147 639 547 100 164 30 3 44 97 9 10 87 47 .300 .396 .607 1.003 177 332 14 2 0 3 19 *9/3 AS,MVP-3
1970 ★ 36 ATL NL 150 598 516 103 154 26 1 38 118 9 0 74 63 .298 .385 .574 .958 149 296 13 2 0 6 15 *93 AS,MVP-17
1971 ★ 37 ATL NL 139 573 495 95 162 22 3 47 118 1 1 71 58 .327 .410 .669 1.079 194 331 9 2 0 5 21 39 AS,MVP-3
1972 ★ 38 ATL NL 129 545 449 75 119 10 0 34 77 4 0 92 55 .265 .390 .514 .904 147 231 17 1 0 2 15 *39 AS,MVP-16
1973 ★ 39 ATL NL 120 465 392 84 118 12 1 40 96 1 1 68 51 .301 .402 .643 1.045 177 252 7 1 0 4 13 79 AS,MVP-12
1974 ★ 40 ATL NL 112 382 340 47 91 16 0 20 69 1 0 39 29 .268 .341 .491 .832 128 167 6 0 1 2 6 7 AS
1975 ★ 41 MIL AL 137 543 465 45 109 16 2 12 60 0 1 70 51 .234 .332 .355 .687 95 165 15 1 1 6 3 *D/7 AS
1976 42 MIL AL 85 308 271 22 62 8 0 10 35 0 1 35 38 .229 .315 .369 .684 102 100 8 0 0 2 1 D/7 -
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Re: Michael Sam - NFL's first openly gay prospect
haha
BOOM ROASTED
although, i would like to add another to the list of distractions for teams. the entire baltimore ravens team and this offseason. aldon smith and his wise decisions also. but those arnt icky so they aren't real distractions.
BOOM ROASTED
although, i would like to add another to the list of distractions for teams. the entire baltimore ravens team and this offseason. aldon smith and his wise decisions also. but those arnt icky so they aren't real distractions.

