TV Thread - beware, [expletive] can get spoilery

[MrSaigon]

I feel like if Baldwin got an Emmy every time he walked on the set of 30 Rock even though he was washed up doing movies with Dane Cook, then maybe Danny Devito should have been nominated once or twice for SunnyP.

[ghostrunner]

Kind of curious how it works that Saul goes from being known as a lawyer named Jimmy McGill in ABQ, to being known as a lawyer named Saul Goodman in ABQ.

[33anda3rd]

I feel like if Baldwin got an Emmy every time he walked on the set of 30 Rock even though he was washed up doing movies with Dane Cook, then maybe Danny Devito should have been nominated once or twice for SunnyP.

I agree. So does Emily Nussbaum, who wrote this on Sunny in the New Yorker a couple years ago:

Since it débuted, in 2005, “Always Sunny” has become the milk-steak of sitcoms: the perfect food that no one has ever heard of. In a fairer universe, it would be heralded as not merely the best sitcom on television but one of the most arresting and ambitious current TV series, period. And yet it rarely enters into the Golden Age debates, even as we all yammer on about the latest season of “Homeland.” The creators are not famous; the show has zero Emmys.

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[Schlich]

I never got past IASIP as anything more than dressed-up slapstick. Blasphemy, I know.

I don't think there are many people that haven't heard of it or seen a bunch of episodes. I think it's a very specific brand of humor not everyone can get on board with. Just speculation on my part.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Well the creators of Sunny are famous, just not for being the *creators* of Sunny.

They do deserve more credit though, part of it was their peak was in a pretty competitive TV comedy landscape, and then they very much had a down couple seasons before these last 2. Some of last season's stuff is right up there with any episode though, The Gang Breaks Dee is just great.

[Jocephus]

like dexter, sunny had me for the first few seasons then i thought it got stupid and stopped watching

[33anda3rd]

Sunny at it's best is Seinfeld--a group of horrible people doing horrible things to outsiders--except you can't relate in the least. You could relate to George fighting over a parking space or coveting the favor of the Soup Nazi but you could never relate to putting a dumpster baby in a tanning bed "just to get a base" or turning a priest into a burned-up trashy hobo by manipulating him around his desire for Dee. The nihilism and narcissism are turned up to 11, to the point that if you find yourself relating you should probably go get help ASAP. As a result, it's incredibly funny at its best.

[The Third Man]

Sunny at it's best is Seinfeld--a group of horrible people doing horrible things to outsiders--except you can't relate in the least. You could relate to George fighting over a parking space or coveting the favor of the Soup Nazi but you could never relate to putting a dumpster baby in a tanning bed "just to get a base" or turning a priest into a burned-up trashy hobo by manipulating him around his desire for Dee. The nihilism and narcissism are turned up to 11, to the point that if you find yourself relating you should probably go get help ASAP. As a result, it's incredibly funny at its best.

Yeah, McElhenney & co. have sheepishly admitted the incredibly strong Seinfeld influence in the past. The analogy I've made before is IASIP : Seinfeld :: Apocalypse Now : Aguirre, the Wrath of God - i.e., a shameless ripoff that takes the formula of the original and amps it up to eleven, but is so good and smart about it that you can't at all begrudge it for wearing its influence on its sleeve.

[heyzeus]

If you're an Always Sunny neophyte, go on netflix and watch The Nightman Cometh, from season 4. If you don't enjoy it, don't ever talk to me again. We're through.

[heyzeus]

I thought the acting of Saul lawyer girl friend and the two detectives was bad enough to really screw the episode up. Story line was weird too. Im still interested but I thought it was just so so.

I hate to say it, but the episode this week (#3) was kinda boring.