TV Thread - beware, [expletive] can get spoilery

[MrSaigon]

What about this isn't cool? If you say it's the line 'Casey stepped with Anna off the curb, his shoes are clogs. Did you see? Did you see?' well then you're dead wrong.

To be fair though, this song always made me question my music choices at that time.

[thrill]

What about this isn't cool?

Everything?
I just got really into The Clash and had to leave it behind. Got really into the idea of credibility, which is really funny in hindsight, being a white suburban kid from a town of less than 20 thousand.

[heyzeus]

Back to TV!

Mad Men!

Mad Men last night was enjoyable. I like that the first half of the episode, it seemed like we were going down the same road we have several times - Roger, Don, Pete, and Joan gather in secret and plot to secure their clients to launch their own firm. I was all like "this again?" Then the McCann Erickson execs just execute Don mid-pitch. Surprise, [expletive], you're not pulling this stunt again.

[MrSaigon]

I do have Mass Pike in a couple playlists. Good callback to mostly really bad music.

[thrill]

Then the McCann Erickson execs just execute Don mid-pitch. Surprise, [expletive], you're not pulling this stunt again.

That was the best. That and Ken whipping it out on Roger and Pete.

This season has really hammered home the idea of getting everything you think you want and still being unhappy. How indiscriminate desire pushes people and then leaves them empty when they get what they want. It's leading to an unsatisfying ending for a lot of people, but for people who just appreciate that subtlety and realness of it, it's been great.

[heyzeus]

This season has really hammered home the idea of getting everything you think you want and still being unhappy. How indiscriminate desire pushes people and then leaves them empty when they get what they want. It's leading to an unsatisfying ending for a lot of people, but for people who just appreciate that subtlety and realness of it, it's been great.

Exactly. I think the point of the show is to demonstrate just how privileged these boorish, womanizing, egotistical white dudes totally got away with it for years and years without ever facing repercussions. Then, inevitably, the corrections come in the form of social upheaval. And we see that the "American Dream" was a box of selfish id-food that, once used up, left its vessel empty and alone.

[Jocephus]

[33anda3rd]

I feel like a lot of this season of MM is also hammering home just how unchanged these guys are. Draper darn near lost his job, and was miserable for not having it. He gets everything back--position, authority, office--and starts this year off coming to work hungover and immediately settling in for a nap, banging lots of random women, drinking a ton. He went right back to where he was before, as if there was no growth or change to come from being in exile.

[Vidor]

Then the McCann Erickson execs just execute Don mid-pitch. Surprise, [expletive], you're not pulling this stunt again.

That was the best. That and Ken whipping it out on Roger and Pete.

This season has really hammered home the idea of getting everything you think you want and still being unhappy. How indiscriminate desire pushes people and then leaves them empty when they get what they want. It's leading to an unsatisfying ending for a lot of people, but for people who just appreciate that subtlety and realness of it, it's been great.

I guess I don't appreciate that subtlety and realness. The words "first world problems" keep coming to mind. How awful for Don that he's a millionaire who can do whatever he wants for the rest of his life. This denoument has been disappointing to me.

[heyzeus]

Then the McCann Erickson execs just execute Don mid-pitch. Surprise, [expletive], you're not pulling this stunt again.

That was the best. That and Ken whipping it out on Roger and Pete.

This season has really hammered home the idea of getting everything you think you want and still being unhappy. How indiscriminate desire pushes people and then leaves them empty when they get what they want. It's leading to an unsatisfying ending for a lot of people, but for people who just appreciate that subtlety and realness of it, it's been great.

I guess I don't appreciate that subtlety and realness. The words "first world problems" keep coming to mind. How awful for Don that he's a millionaire who can do whatever he wants for the rest of his life. This denoument has been disappointing to me.

The point of the show is not that Don is a millionaire who can do whatever he wants with the rest of his life. It's that he's an empty gaping elevator shaft chasm of a human being, and that all of his life's dreams of money and women and prestige (ie, the capitalist dream) has left him with an empty apartment and no hope or purpose. It's really the opposite of what you said.