2016 Election Thread (My God Kill Me Now)

[Tim]

Libertarian debate on FoxBusiness has been fun.

[pioneer98]

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[jim]

@ChrisSosa is a jerk face. He has a @ in his name. What a jerk wad. He's a real jerk. So is John HIckenlooper. He is a real jerk off. Jerks.

[Radbird]

Ted Cruz, Unlikely GOP Savior

Privately—and often publicly—Republicans on Capitol Hill accuse Texas’ freshman senator of putting his own ambition ahead of party and country. Until recently, their feelings about him could be summed up by invoking Elizabeth Barrett Browning—provided the 19th century British poet had an evil twin: “How do we hate you, Ted Cruz? Let us count the ways.”

Now, however, it seems that GOP officialdom is stuck with Ted Cruz. The cliché about politics and strange bedfellows doesn’t begin to describe how weird this is. The only logic that explains it is the ancient adage about the enemy of my enemy being my friend. The enemy in this case being not Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders, but instead a certain New York tycoon with a famous hairdo, a penchant for insults, and a fetish for a wall along the southern U.S. border.

But for many prominent Republicans, having to choose between Ted Cruz and Donald Trump is an exquisite form of torture. Cruz’s colleagues find him officious, selfish, and maddening. They doubt his sincerity. They hate how he grandstands. They despise him for impugning the integrity of his own party leaders

[UK]

Sanders wins Wyoming by 12 and loses the delegate count by 4?

It's hypocritical to complain about voter suppression, when your own party has a similar version of voter suppression. The supports of Sanders in Wyoming didnt vote to have their candidate win but voted not to lose by a huge margin.

Rigged system. Superdelegates bought by Clinton. I'm voting 3rd party if she wins now whether that's Gary Johnson or Jill Stein, is still to be determined.

[ghostrunner]

I wouldn't put too much stock in the superdelegates. Not saying the system is good, but it's not guaranteed to favor Clinton and the concern may be a little overblown. They don't actually vote until the convention and can switch at any time, so media outlets are essentially reporting them prematurely. Obama had many switch over to him in 2008, though it happened earlier because he was clearly winning.

Bloomberg has many of them already apportioned on their delegate tracker, all the way to the last state.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graph ... e-tracker/

Also, this:

http://www.npr.org/2016/04/09/473398688 ... not-amused

But all this freelance lobbying may be unnecessary. It has been the tradition of superdelegates, even in contentious primaries, to ultimately vote at the convention for the candidate with the most popular votes and pledged delegates.

Tad Devine, a senior adviser to Sanders' campaign, was actually involved in the creation of superdelegates, as a way to get party officials more involved in selecting the Democratic nominee.

"That was always done with the understanding that the voters would determine the outcome of this process, and I think they'll do it this time," Devine said back in February when the superdelegate controversy was flaring up after the New Hampshire primary.

[ghostrunner]

I wouldn't put too much stock in the superdelegates. Not saying the system is good, but it's not guaranteed to favor Clinton and the concern may be a little overblown. They don't actually vote until the convention and can switch at any time, so media outlets are essentially reporting them prematurely. Obama had many switch over to him in 2008, though it happened earlier because he was clearly winning.

Bloomberg has many of them already apportioned on their delegate tracker, all the way to the last state.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graph ... e-tracker/

Also, this:

http://www.npr.org/2016/04/09/473398688 ... not-amused

But all this freelance lobbying may be unnecessary. It has been the tradition of superdelegates, even in contentious primaries, to ultimately vote at the convention for the candidate with the most popular votes and pledged delegates.

Tad Devine, a senior adviser to Sanders' campaign, was actually involved in the creation of superdelegates, as a way to get party officials more involved in selecting the Democratic nominee.

"That was always done with the understanding that the voters would determine the outcome of this process, and I think they'll do it this time," Devine said back in February when the superdelegate controversy was flaring up after the New Hampshire primary.

EDIT - I don't know what the makeup is of the superdelegates. You'd assume they'd be more party loyalists and they can do what they want, so I understand the concern. On the other hand, if Bernie were to keep winning from here to the end (which he needs to do anyway), I would think you'd have a lot of them thinking twice about who they vote for.

[lukethedrifter]

Cokie Roberts said this morning 'why would they vote for Bernie? what has he done for them?'