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Leroy wrote:Um, no. How many games over .500 would we be with this kid?
You better get used to it - cause it's right in front of you.

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Re: My prediction: We sign Robert for a total of $65 mil. Yo

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Johnconrad wrote:
Leroy wrote:Um, no. How many games over .500 would we be with this kid?
You better get used to it - cause it's right in front of you.
Ok, thanks for the heads up Nostradamus.

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Leroy wrote:Anybody that can say What's another 10 million? of someone else's money can just shut up as far as I'm concerned.

If you were all in on this kid, and are now in mourning, I feel sorry for you. Maybe I'm ignorant and blissful, but I'm not gonna lose any sleep over some kid I never heard of three weeks ago.

I don't know how the organization wins with some of you really. We should've got Price. But he has sucked. But we shoulda got him. And Heyward. Except he has sucked too. But still. How can they win?
Price definitely didn't suck last year. He's hurt now, but I never feel like I can say an injury would've happened if you're with another organization.

We got lucky Heyward chose the Cubs. I would not have begrudged them if he signed here and crapped out because I wanted him back to, and to fault them without faulting myself would make me a hypocrite.

When they start winning bidding wars for elite players-- not the Fowlers and Leakes of the world-- the organization will win with me.

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MrCrowesGarden wrote:
Leroy wrote:Anybody that can say What's another 10 million? of someone else's money can just shut up as far as I'm concerned.

If you were all in on this kid, and are now in mourning, I feel sorry for you. Maybe I'm ignorant and blissful, but I'm not gonna lose any sleep over some kid I never heard of three weeks ago.

I don't know how the organization wins with some of you really. We should've got Price. But he has sucked. But we shoulda got him. And Heyward. Except he has sucked too. But still. How can they win?
Price definitely didn't suck last year. He's hurt now, but I never feel like I can say an injury would've happened if you're with another organization.

We got lucky Heyward chose the Cubs. I would not have begrudged them if he signed here and crapped out because I wanted him back to, and to fault them without faulting myself would make me a hypocrite.

When they start winning bidding wars for elite players-- not the Fowlers and Leakes of the world-- the organization will win with me.
They'll never get a better shot than the one they just fumbled.

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Leroy wrote:Anybody that can say What's another 10 million? of someone else's money can just shut up as far as I'm concerned.

If you were all in on this kid, and are now in mourning, I feel sorry for you. Maybe I'm ignorant and blissful, but I'm not gonna lose any sleep over some kid I never heard of three weeks ago.

I don't know how the organization wins with some of you really. We should've got Price. But he has sucked. But we shoulda got him. And Heyward. Except he has sucked too. But still. How can they win?
It bears repeating that we don't have a pick in this draft until #94, coupled with the fact that we won't be able to sign any elite international talent for the next two years (if im understanding the new rules for international signings), that is what makes this whole deal sting even worse.

If the cards don't want to win a bidding war for Harper/Machado, fine. It sucks, but not a single person on this board thinks we actually have a shot at premium cornerstone free agents.

This is an an organization that relies on talent coming from within, so this is why this was such a disappointment.

So yea, whats $10 mil for a team that is rolling in cash? And will continue to do so when the new TV deal kicks in.

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Johnconrad wrote:Do you enjoy sub-500 baseball?
They've had one losing season this century.

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Leroy wrote:Um, no. How many games over .500 would we be with this kid?
Are you intentionally being obtuse?

The Cards are rarely in position to acquire high end talent. By all reports, this kid has the potential to be a stud. Of course we can't be certain, but what is certain is that if we remain around .500 we won't have many opportunities to draft someone like him. We also are without a first round pick in this upcoming draft.

If you haven't heard of this kid until 3 weeks ago, that is on you, not us. Nobody is asking you to lose sleep over this, but some of us having been reading and following this kid for awhile now. It is another disappointment in a long list of disappointments in the last few years.

Can you not see the talent gap in the core between us and the Cubs? Ian Happ would have been a starter for us on Day 1. They may send him back down. The talent gap is striking and doesn't appear to be getting any closer.

I see people throwing around Machado. Welp I am done getting my hopes up.

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Farewell Friends wrote:
Johnconrad wrote:Do you enjoy sub-500 baseball?
They've had one losing season this century.
So relax, right?

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Johnconrad wrote:
Farewell Friends wrote:
Johnconrad wrote:Do you enjoy sub-500 baseball?
They've had one losing season this century.
So relax, right?
Do whatever you gotta do. I'm replying to your comment about enjoying sub-.500 baseball. I don't think anyone enjoys it, which is good because we haven't had to witness it in 10 years and eight before that.

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Leroy wrote:Anybody that can say What's another 10 million? of someone else's money can just shut up as far as I'm concerned.

If you were all in on this kid, and are now in mourning, I feel sorry for you. Maybe I'm ignorant and blissful, but I'm not gonna lose any sleep over some kid I never heard of three weeks ago.

I don't know how the organization wins with some of you really. We should've got Price. But he has sucked. But we shoulda got him. And Heyward. Except he has sucked too. But still. How can they win?
I don't think people are saying, well, DeWitt should just light $10M on fire. He has money so just light $10M on fire!!1

Fans aren't stupid and Bernie isn't either. He echoes what a lot of fans are saying. No one wants the Cardinals to waste money, no one. Even the most die hard critics that think the Cardinals should spend more money want players in return for that money.

And, that's no different right now. The overall point, if the Cardinals were willing to spend $40M or $45M for Robert, one of the richest international draft contracts ever handed out, why not $50 or $55M? The fact they're offering a 19 year old $45M is pretty indicative of what they think of his talent. Talent like that can be worth hundreds of millions of dollars on the field and help the cardinals be compete and put an exciting, successful product on the field.

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