My prediction: We sign Robert for a total of $65 mil. Yours?

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Re: My prediction: We sign Robert for a total of $65 mil. Yo

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"What's another $10 million?"

How many years did Robert get? If that extra $10 million is spread over 4 years, at $2.5 mil/year, then that would be like 0.8% of their revenue each year. And actually, we know revenue will likely take a big jump next year with the new TV deal. So something less than that.

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Just to clarify, when it is said that they should have just kicked in another $10M... is that $5M to the player and $5M in tax or $10M each? $20M is a little more significant than $10M regardless of whether you think of $10M as pocket change or not.

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tlombard wrote:Just to clarify, when it is said that they should have just kicked in another $10M... is that $5M to the player and $5M in tax or $10M each? $20M is a little more significant than $10M regardless of whether you think of $10M as pocket change or not.
I was assuming the talk was bumping the total offer from $45M to $55M (so $27.5M to the player).

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If the team was to win a high stakes bidding war every now and then then I could be more understanding when for whatever reason they don't go all in. But we have seen then consistently come up short. It's looks like it's an attempt at PR to show that the team is really interested in making a big move, when they really have no intention of spending what's necessary.

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Re: My prediction: We sign Robert for a total of $65 mil. Yo

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pioneer98 wrote:"What's another $10 million?"

How many years did Robert get? If that extra $10 million is spread over 4 years, at $2.5 mil/year, then that would be like 0.8% of their revenue each year. And actually, we know revenue will likely take a big jump next year with the new TV deal. So something less than that.
I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression that the money is just a signing bonus and then the player enters the system same as any player drafted. So, 6 years of team control at the major league level plus 4ish years until they have to be added to the 40 man to protect them from the Rule 5 draft.

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:
pioneer98 wrote:"What's another $10 million?"

How many years did Robert get? If that extra $10 million is spread over 4 years, at $2.5 mil/year, then that would be like 0.8% of their revenue each year. And actually, we know revenue will likely take a big jump next year with the new TV deal. So something less than that.
I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression that the money is just a signing bonus and then the player enters the system same as any player drafted. So, 6 years of team control at the major league level plus 4ish years until they have to be added to the 40 man to protect them from the Rule 5 draft.
This is my understanding. So if Robert turns out to be good, 50 million outlay by the team becomes 80-100 million for his years of team control depending on how good he is.

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Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:
pioneer98 wrote:"What's another $10 million?"

How many years did Robert get? If that extra $10 million is spread over 4 years, at $2.5 mil/year, then that would be like 0.8% of their revenue each year. And actually, we know revenue will likely take a big jump next year with the new TV deal. So something less than that.
I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression that the money is just a signing bonus and then the player enters the system same as any player drafted. So, 6 years of team control at the major league level plus 4ish years until they have to be added to the 40 man to protect them from the Rule 5 draft.
This is my understanding. So if Robert turns out to be good, 50 million outlay by the team becomes 80-100 million for his years of team control depending on how good he is.
Yeah, if he makes $50M through his arb years, that's a pretty damn good player. One that's putting up multiple 5+ win seasons.

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Spider John wrote:If the team was to win a high stakes bidding war every now and then then I could be more understanding when for whatever reason they don't go all in. But we have seen then consistently come up short. It's looks like it's an attempt at PR to show that the team is really interested in making a big move, when they really have no intention of spending what's necessary.
They just keep accumulating (and banking) that "dry powder"

Hogwash

Team payroll has sunk to 42-43% from 52-53% in 2006

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tlombard wrote:Just to clarify, when it is said that they should have just kicked in another $10M... is that $5M to the player and $5M in tax or $10M each? $20M is a little more significant than $10M regardless of whether you think of $10M as pocket change or not.
You don't have 3 top draft picks to sign this year.

Why not take a shot at a transformational talent?

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Johnconrad wrote:
Spider John wrote:If the team was to win a high stakes bidding war every now and then then I could be more understanding when for whatever reason they don't go all in. But we have seen then consistently come up short. It's looks like it's an attempt at PR to show that the team is really interested in making a big move, when they really have no intention of spending what's necessary.
They just keep accumulating (and banking) that "dry powder"

Hogwash

Team payroll has sunk to 42-43% from 52-53% in 2006
I've seen you post this a few times. Can you link me to it?

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