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CardsofSTL wrote:TNG was and is the best show on television. Ever.
It's not even the best star trek series. Deep Space Nine takes that honor.

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BottenFieldofDreams wrote:
But more importantly, that clip mostly makes me miss Pierre Bernard. Does he ever show up on Conan anymore?
as far as i know he is still employed with conan in cali. he's had a few remotes on the tbs show and was part of a few when conan was on TTS but haven't seen him lately (i don't have cable so i'm usually just catching the YT clips though). here are 2 tbs bits that come to mind and i can find


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Michael wrote:
CardsofSTL wrote:TNG was and is the best show on television. Ever.
It's not even the best star trek series. Deep Space Nine takes that honor.

/rolls up nerdy sleeves
DS9 would have died a quick death without being saved by TNG alum Michael Dorn.

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Freed Roger wrote:Wow -Vietnam Series
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the early sequence with everything going in reverse- all mostly familiar imagery - a stunner
Anybody in on this yet?
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amazing-they include lots of footage and perspective of Vietcong and N Vietnamese vets. JFK and LBJ and advisors mostly sensed this was a loser, there was barely a govt and support in the South. Hard to say what JFK would have done, but the chaos of his death and LBJ scrambling and trying to get reelected did not lend to clear thinking. Looking at map, how dumb protecting this last sliver of SE Asia from communism. But they kept on entrenching US there.
As the S Vietnames vet said - deep in the mind of Vietnamese people was that the foreigner was an invader. When LBJ landed the marines on the beach, the Vietcong had more recruits

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CardsofSTL wrote:TNG was and is the best show on television. Ever.
Have to agree. I watched a documentary about the making of it on Youtube once, and some of the writers complained about how difficult it was to write a show where the central conflict wasn't between the main characters...even though, y'know, it worked and was (and still is) incredibly refreshing to see. If it's not my favourite TV show ever, it's definitely top 5.

Although I preferred DS9 as a kid, the thought of watching it again now fills me with dread. No more Ferengi for me.

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30 minutes out until Star Trek Discovery premiere y'all. I'm interested but not sure how it will go. Always dangerous trying to be original but faithful to the old guard.

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I'm a couple of episodes into watching Star Trek: Enterprise, not sure why I waited this long to give it a try.

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JoeMcKim wrote:I'm a couple of episodes into watching Star Trek: Enterprise, not sure why I waited this long to give it a try.
For the most part; I liked Enterprise. There were a few ugh moments but you get that with most shows. I like Bakula. Hate the theme music though.

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CardsofSTL wrote:
Michael wrote:
CardsofSTL wrote:TNG was and is the best show on television. Ever.
It's not even the best star trek series. Deep Space Nine takes that honor.

/rolls up nerdy sleeves
DS9 would have died a quick death without being saved by TNG alum Michael Dorn.
Worf was saved by DS9. TNG beta'd worf so bad.

This year I watched all of DS9 and it confirmed my belief it is head and shoulders the best star trek. It's the only trek series where I've watched every episode.

DS9 had a very strong ongoing narrative, which was usual for its day. It also had by far the most developed cast of characters (including villains) of any of the trek series. On top of that the DS9 supporting cast members are way better developed than the main characters on the other shows. For example, the character arch for Nog is terrific. You don't get something like that with a bit character on any other trek series.

Outside of Data and Picard the TNG cast is a bore. Well, Worf was good, but they kinda screwed him up.

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