Hoot45 wrote:Jason Motte signed a minor league deal with the Cardinals. More closers!
"not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
- MrCrowesGarden
- 'Burb Boy
- Posts: 24841
- Joined: July 9 06, 11:33 am
- Location: Out of the Loop
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
- MinorLeagueGuy
- The Angst is Real
- Posts: 18447
- Joined: September 8 10, 2:57 pm
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
Ooo that jab stingsMrCrowesGarden wrote:Hoot45 wrote:Jason Motte signed a minor league deal with the Cardinals. More closers!
- sighyoung
- Mayor of GRB
- Posts: 38564
- Joined: April 17 06, 7:42 pm
- Location: Louisville
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
Fat Strat wrote:Cards lose Rowan Wick to .... yup, Padres. Perennial poacher of put-aside prospects.

- Momo
- Veteran Player
- Posts: 560
- Joined: December 7 17, 11:58 pm
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
Billy Beane is witnessing Moneyball’s endgame: ‘We’re all valuing the same things’
This is kind of what I was saying a few days ago when I cited Cameron from Fangraphs hypothesizing that the sabermetric revolution had been “won.”
It seems like the last frontiers are probably in A) Deep, individual analytics like the Dodgers are doing, and B) Perhaps more psychometric research to get more from the “human” side of the game.
This is kind of what I was saying a few days ago when I cited Cameron from Fangraphs hypothesizing that the sabermetric revolution had been “won.”
It seems like the last frontiers are probably in A) Deep, individual analytics like the Dodgers are doing, and B) Perhaps more psychometric research to get more from the “human” side of the game.
- ZigZagCardsFan
- Perennial All-Star
- Posts: 5526
- Joined: July 29 06, 6:26 pm
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
I think there could still be advancements in mechanics like we've seen with a focus on launch angle. Maybe there's finally groundbreaking steps to keep pitchers healthier.
I'm a nerd and baseball allows me to nerd out like no other. I'm excited to see these continuing advancements.
I'm a nerd and baseball allows me to nerd out like no other. I'm excited to see these continuing advancements.
- Hoot45
- Perennial All-Star
- Posts: 4008
- Joined: October 8 14, 11:41 am
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
The Cardinals invested in this over a year ago too. Here's a quote from MLB.com about it:Momo wrote:It seems like the last frontiers are probably in A) Deep, individual analytics like the Dodgers are doing, and B) Perhaps more psychometric research to get more from the “human” side of the game.
This department recently was credited with encouraging the team to start spring training an hour later so players could sleep more. That's kind of a lame example but I mention it just because the department was in the news lately.By bringing all of these areas under one umbrella, the Cardinals envisioned the potential for a competitive advantage. In the same way sabermetrics once changed the landscape of player evaluation, the Cards saw the creation of a performance department as baseball's potential next frontier.
- Momo
- Veteran Player
- Posts: 560
- Joined: December 7 17, 11:58 pm
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
The later Spring Training thing was a good idea. The next step would seem to obviously seem to be treating minor league players right. If they get access to better equipment, technology and living conditions, they’d probably be far less stressed and more likely to reach their potential.
- Momo
- Veteran Player
- Posts: 560
- Joined: December 7 17, 11:58 pm
Re: "not worthy of its own thread" offseason thread
I think launch angle probably falls in that “deep, individual analytics” idea I mentioned. Because something like launch angle isn’t just about elevating the ball or whatever, it’s about figuring out the elevation that your swing best responds to. Similarly, new research on sequencing or pitch usage isn’t just about everyone switching to one or the other pitch, it’s about fixing your problems (e.g. like with the Dodgers seemingly fixing Cingrani last year).ZigZagCardsFan wrote:I think there could still be advancements in mechanics like we've seen with a focus on launch angle. Maybe there's finally groundbreaking steps to keep pitchers healthier.
I'm a nerd and baseball allows me to nerd out like no other. I'm excited to see these continuing advancements.
But yeah, it’s all pretty interesting and will be fascinating to see what the next “inefficiencies” are.
- Radbird
- There's someone in my head but it's not me
- Posts: 61791
- Joined: April 18 06, 5:08 pm
- Location: LF Bleachers @ Busch II
- Tim
- Consider him admonished
- Posts: 8320
- Joined: March 25 15, 9:59 am
- Location: The South






