GeddyWrox wrote:I watched Mother! over the weekend. I'm still not quite sure what to think of it. It was... it was just... WtF did I watch???
Its so good! Allegory is probably best word for it. Religious overtones but I think framing it that way doesnt do it justice. People focus too much on the plot and strange narrative structure. Just let it speak to you!
Did you think this on the first viewing? Or has your opinion grown over time?
I think if I had gone into it with this angle in mind I might have appreciated it more. I went into it knowing that it was weird, but that's all I knew. I think I was expecting a more traditional movie where the characters are just f'd up. But I'm not sure I really want to watch it again at this point.[/quotes]
I mean I do think it got better on a second viewing. Idk though its hard to view it outside of personally being a fan of Aronofsky's work and how many of his other movies speak to me. It kind of sets the framework and allows you to more easily follow along with the more fantastical elements. But regardless of that I feel like its just a little more experimental than most people are used to and expectations are key
I wonder if there would have been a difference if you told people straight up in the beginning that it was an allegory. Though I'm not sure how you do that artfully, outside of some kind of omniscient narrator. I was confused by it though I enjoyed things about it, and hadn't gotten far into developing my thoughts when I heard the God/Earth explanation.
I thought it was meant to represent an artist's process, and it sort of works but comes off a bit patriarchal and parasitic when viewed that way. I do think some of that bled in there whether it was intended or not.
But I heard the biblical/creation angle and I was all "Ohhhhhhh....Ohhhhhh" for the next 20 minutes.
GeddyWrox wrote:I watched Mother! over the weekend. I'm still not quite sure what to think of it. It was... it was just... WtF did I watch???
Its so good! Allegory is probably best word for it. Religious overtones but I think framing it that way doesnt do it justice. People focus too much on the plot and strange narrative structure. Just let it speak to you!
Did you think this on the first viewing? Or has your opinion grown over time?
I think if I had gone into it with this angle in mind I might have appreciated it more. I went into it knowing that it was weird, but that's all I knew. I think I was expecting a more traditional movie where the characters are just f'd up. But I'm not sure I really want to watch it again at this point.[/quotes]
I mean I do think it got better on a second viewing. Idk though its hard to view it outside of personally being a fan of Aronofsky's work and how many of his other movies speak to me. It kind of sets the framework and allows you to more easily follow along with the more fantastical elements. But regardless of that I feel like its just a little more experimental than most people are used to and expectations are key
I wonder if there would have been a difference if you told people straight up in the beginning that it was an allegory. Though I'm not sure how you do that artfully, outside of some kind of omniscient narrator. I was confused by it though I enjoyed things about it, and hadn't gotten far into developing my thoughts when I heard the God/Earth explanation.
I thought it was meant to represent an artist's process, and it sort of works but comes off a bit patriarchal and parasitic when viewed that way. I do think some of that bled in there whether it was intended or not.
But I heard the biblical/creation angle and I was all "Ohhhhhhh....Ohhhhhh" for the next 20 minutes.
I don't think you're too far off with the art angle... there are a lot of nuanced religious themes of art/creation/process woven in throughout. The Artist (is that his character's name?) as the Godly figure says a lot of Aronofsky's vision of what art means to him as a male artist, and yet he recognizes and highlights the sore lack of femininity in both art and religion, and how patriarchal structures have excluded those voices, and the consequences of that
Watched "Logan Lucky" over the weekend. It was sort of bland until near the end. Had a couple (and I mean two, maybe three) funny lines.
I'm not enough of a moviephile to be a fan of a certain director, but it seems I tend to like Soderbergh films. This one let me down for the first 85% of the movie.
Came across the Isle of Dogs trailer again. I viscerally hate it. It feels like a random collection of characters in incredible sets saying things they don't particularly feel passionate about. The lines sound "important", but it's like they're saying the trash needs taking out. I feel this way about Wes Anderson generally, and more so over time.
ghostrunner wrote:Came across the Isle of Dogs trailer again. I viscerally hate it. It feels like a random collection of characters in incredible sets saying things they don't particularly feel passionate about. The lines sound "important", but it's like they're saying the trash needs taking out. I feel this way about Wes Anderson generally, and more so over time.
Wes Anderson is incredibly gifted at creating movies that look/feel awesome.
He's also incredibly gifted at boring the [expletive] out of me.
I have to say, I wasn't on board for Infinity War until I saw commercials from the Official Mortgage Loan Processor of Marvel's Avengers Infinity War. FULLY ENGAGED.
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ghostrunner wrote:Came across the Isle of Dogs trailer again. I viscerally hate it. It feels like a random collection of characters in incredible sets saying things they don't particularly feel passionate about. The lines sound "important", but it's like they're saying the trash needs taking out. I feel this way about Wes Anderson generally, and more so over time.
Wes Anderson is incredibly gifted at creating movies that look/feel awesome.
He's also incredibly gifted at boring the [expletive] out of me.
On SE Hawthorne in Portland there are some boutiques that will give you the same aesthetic. There will be pretentious hipsters, but there won't be melencholy children speaking as though life is a dull ache even though they're in the middle of an adventure.
ghostrunner wrote:Came across the Isle of Dogs trailer again. I viscerally hate it. It feels like a random collection of characters in incredible sets saying things they don't particularly feel passionate about. The lines sound "important", but it's like they're saying the trash needs taking out. I feel this way about Wes Anderson generally, and more so over time.
Wes Anderson is incredibly gifted at creating movies that look/feel awesome.
He's also incredibly gifted at boring the [expletive] out of me.
On SE Hawthorne in Portland there are some boutiques that will give you the same aesthetic. There will be pretentious hipsters, but there won't be melencholy children speaking as though life is a dull ache even though they're in the middle of an adventure.
