Jim Edmonds: 20 Years Later
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Re: Jim Edmonds: 20 Years Later
As Cardinals fans, a lot of us didn't know exactly what we were getting with Edmonds but the Angels organization had been watching him for years. What were they possibly thinking?
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I'd seen him while watching plenty of Angels games on local tv out here, & it was easy to see he was darn good. But I also remember hearing rumors like he wasn't that popular among teammates, prima donna/cocky attitude, a flashy hotdog, etc.Richie Allen wrote: ↑March 23 21, 6:15 pmAs Cardinals fans, a lot of us didn't know exactly what we were getting with Edmonds but the Angels organization had been watching him for years. What were they possibly thinking?
Of course, I have no way of knowing if any of that was true.
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Re: Jim Edmonds: 20 Years Later
I can't think of a time in any sport in such high leverage situations where a guy had such a large impact on two games in such a short (game) time frame than the 04 nlcs game 6 and game 7. He ends game 6 with a walk off home run in the 12th inning to send the series to a game 7, then in the first inning of game 7 with, what 1 out, he saves 2 runs with a catch that probably has a 5% chance of being caught.
What was the Win Probability prior to his homerun in game 6? Maybe 65%? He took it to 100. What's the Win Probability going down 2-0 with a runner on 2nd and 1 out in the top of the 1st? Stick with 65%? Vs 2 outs 0-0 runner on 1st and 2nd? What's that 50ish%? By my made up but probably not too far off math, he added half a win in the span of 2 outs of game time spanning over two games.
There are a lot of clutch performances at the ends of games (Reggie Miller catching fire at MAdison Square Garden, Pujols bomb off lidge, etc etc etc). But it's tough to have such a large impact at the beginning of the game outside of baseball. I'd guess.
What was the Win Probability prior to his homerun in game 6? Maybe 65%? He took it to 100. What's the Win Probability going down 2-0 with a runner on 2nd and 1 out in the top of the 1st? Stick with 65%? Vs 2 outs 0-0 runner on 1st and 2nd? What's that 50ish%? By my made up but probably not too far off math, he added half a win in the span of 2 outs of game time spanning over two games.
There are a lot of clutch performances at the ends of games (Reggie Miller catching fire at MAdison Square Garden, Pujols bomb off lidge, etc etc etc). But it's tough to have such a large impact at the beginning of the game outside of baseball. I'd guess.
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Re: Jim Edmonds: 20 Years Later
I might be totally making this up but wasn't there a concern about his durability due to the way he played in his early days with the Angels? Either way; it was good for the Cardinals so that makes me happy.st.lewis11 wrote: ↑March 23 21, 8:41 pmI'd seen him while watching plenty of Angels games on local tv out here, & it was easy to see he was darn good. But I also remember hearing rumors like he wasn't that popular among teammates, prima donna/cocky attitude, a flashy hotdog, etc.Richie Allen wrote: ↑March 23 21, 6:15 pmAs Cardinals fans, a lot of us didn't know exactly what we were getting with Edmonds but the Angels organization had been watching him for years. What were they possibly thinking?
Of course, I have no way of knowing if any of that was true.
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Re: Jim Edmonds: 20 Years Later
Let us never forget:
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Yep, now that you brought that up, I seem to recall that also.CardsofSTL wrote: ↑March 24 21, 8:07 amI might be totally making this up but wasn't there a concern about his durability due to the way he played in his early days with the Angels? Either way; it was good for the Cardinals so that makes me happy.st.lewis11 wrote: ↑March 23 21, 8:41 pmI'd seen him while watching plenty of Angels games on local tv out here, & it was easy to see he was darn good. But I also remember hearing rumors like he wasn't that popular among teammates, prima donna/cocky attitude, a flashy hotdog, etc.Richie Allen wrote: ↑March 23 21, 6:15 pmAs Cardinals fans, a lot of us didn't know exactly what we were getting with Edmonds but the Angels organization had been watching him for years. What were they possibly thinking?
Of course, I have no way of knowing if any of that was true.
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Re: Jim Edmonds: 20 Years Later
Possibly my favorite ballplayer?
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Yeah, me and my brothers were recently trying to come up with our 5 favorite Cardinals of all time and you immediately think Brock and Gibson but I really only saw them play from 1970 on, and rather seldom at that (and never in a post season), so a lot of the focus was on 2000-15 and I couldn't think of anyone from that era that I liked more than Edmonds.
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Re: Jim Edmonds: 20 Years Later
I was born in 1979 so my favorite Cardinals are:
- Willie McGee
- John Tudor
- Ozzie Smith
- Jim Edmonds
- Yadi Molina
- Matt Morris
- Willie McGee
- John Tudor
- Ozzie Smith
- Jim Edmonds
- Yadi Molina
- Matt Morris