TV Thread - beware, [expletive] can get spoilery

[thrill]

Andor is just ridiculously good. Star Wars stuff completely aside, it’s just a damn good show. Slow burn but it pays off.

Incredible incredible incredible.


It’s an anti-fascist masterpiece. It plods, builds, explodes, unravels, resets, plods, builds, explodes, unravels, resets, plods, builds, and explodes with each reset drawing our characters further into the underbelly of fascist institutional rot until they get to the point when they realize, literally and metaphorically, they are not alive in the empire. They are already dead. The only thing that matters is do you end your life on your terms or theirs?

It’s incredible. So incredible that I wish it wasn’t Star Wars. I wish it was just a new show, but it’s still transcendent television. Incredible performances. skarsgaard’s monologue in the finale was something I’ll remember for a long time. A Star Wars show, on Disney, actually motivated me to not despair living in a crumbling democracy. I can’t believe that’s a thing that happened. Tony Gilroy is my guy.

[ghostrunner]

Not the finale either! 2 more episodes I think. Last I heard it was 12 episodes this season and 12 next season and then it’s done.

[thrill]

Yeah I learned that a few days later and I can't even imagine what more they have left to tell is S1. Crazy episode for it to not be the finale! One of the best hours of television I've ever seen.

[heyzeus]

Just finished S1 of White Lotus. I liked it well enough. It's kinda like if someone wanted to make a happier, pretty to look at version of Parasite. the tone of the show is hard to parse; it's comedic, lightly satiric, and wants to go dark but wants to be popular/watched more and ultimately chooses palatability.

Also, HBO knows how to leverage Daddario and Sweeney's assets better than this. HBO. What have you become.

[cardinalkarp]

Not sure if anyone has check out “There Peripheral” on Amazon, but it’s a sci-fi concept that I haven’t seen before and it’s been really good.

[mikechamp]

Not sure if anyone has check out “There Peripheral” on Amazon, but it’s a sci-fi concept that I haven’t seen before and it’s been really good.

I was thinking of watching this, but hadn't heard much yet. Seemed interesting from the trailer.

[GeddyWrox]

Anyone watch Wednesday yet? I enjoyed it pretty thoroughly. Campy and cheesy in places but the actress that plays the titular character is spectacular.

[GeddyWrox]

I'm going to have to start Andor next.

[vinsanity]

Anyone watch Wednesday yet? I enjoyed it pretty thoroughly. Campy and cheesy in places but the actress that plays the titular character is spectacular.

I tried it. I didn't hate it but it reminds me a lot of The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. It never hooked me but think I would have enjoyed it more if it wasn't Addams Family.

[thrill]

think I would have enjoyed it more if it wasn't Addams Family.

I feel this way about so many things these days. There is a lot of good story telling that would have a chance to spawn it's own ideas and universe, but instead just gets stapled onto existing IP. Andor is a great example. Love the show. Love the ties to the overall Star Wars universe, but I would be way more excited to just let Tony Gilroy make a stand-alone sci-fi show about Fascist Authoritarianism without the trappings of Star Wars IP. If RIan Johnson was given an unlimited budget to create a sci-fi universe, it would be awesome. Instead, he had to make The Last Jedi, and as brilliant as it is in terms of emotional story telling and allegory for the idea of not letting the mistakes of the past create generational cycles of abuse and trauma, instead creating heros that can take the lessons of the past to burn down the forest and use that wisdom to create a new, healthier forest that can thrive, it ran up against too much Star Wars character baggage and audience expectations to be truly appreciated, so everyone ends up unhappy because it doesn't compliment the existing universe and it waters down the potential of new ideas and directions the story can go.