Bullpen Circle Of Trust

[tlombard]

I think the other factor with Carlos is that this isn't his first time trying to come back from the DL this year. He's come back only to land right on the DL again almost immediately a couple of times this season I feel like. I could be wrong but that's just my perception of how his season has gone.

[go birds]

c-mart is also dealing with an oblique issue with what another 3 or 4 years on his deal?

they are prolly trying to get as many miles out of waino as they can before his contract is up.

not optimal, but what do i know

[Jocephus]

i figure it's something to read. and it's free.

In the Final Days Of the Regular Season, Will the Cardinals’ Bullpen Hold or Fold?
By Bernie Miklasz September 18, 2018 3:23 pm

https://www.101sports.com/2018/09/18/in ... d-or-fold/

By now it’s obvious that Cardinals manager Mike Shildt is leaning heavily on Jordan Hicks and Carlos Martinez to protect late-inning leads and lock down victories.

Not counting Luke Weaver, who was brought into lost-cause games for mop-up innings, Martinez and Hicks have pitched the most innings and faced the most batters this month in the seventh, eighth and ninth innings.

It’s a matter of trust.

Shildt clearly trusts Martinez and Hicks … 100 percent.

The manager still trusts rookie RH Dakota Hudson … but not as much as before.

Shildt seems to be putting more trust in RH John Brebbia … this is smart.

The manager had unshakable faith and trust in RH Bud Norris for weeks and weeks … but not now.

Shildt would like to trust RH Dominic Leone … but isn’t fully there.

Shildt trusts the veteran RH Tyson Ross … but mostly as a long reliever to cover innings for starters that don’t last.

Shildt really wanted to trust lefty Chasen Shreve … but can’t.

Shildt warmed up to lefty Tyler Webb … but had reasons to cool down on Webb.

Weaver: No trust … Lefty Brett Cecil … No trust.

RH Mike Mayers: Just returned from injury; level of trust to be determined.

Let’s back up.

[dmarx114]

Updated rankings:

1. Helsley
2. Maton (bleh)
3. Matz
4. Jojo
5. O'Brien (eyes emoji, climbing quickly)
6. Andre the Giant
7. Leahy (we will always have April/May)
8. King

[dmarx114]

2026 edition:

1. O'brien
2. Jojo

Bit of a gap.


3. Svanson (insanely unlucky babip)
4. Soriano
5. Stanek (just not enough strikes)

Replaceable:

6. Bruihl
7. Roycroft
8. Pushard

Kind of want ROB and Jojo to be the 3rd and 4th options out of the pen, not the 1st and 2nd. Svanson and Soriano should be like 7-8, not 3-4.

Good news is this part of the team is fixable.

[TGantz]

Oli's 2026 edition:
1. Stanek
2. Roycroft
3. Stanek
4. Roycroft
5. O'Brien
6. Bruihl
7. Svanson
8. Soriano
9. Pushard
10. Romero

[TGantz]

My 2026 edition:
1. O' Brien
2. Romero
3. Anyone from Memphis

4. Soriano
5. Bruihl
6. Svanson

7. Stanek
8. Pushard

Roycroft DFA

[Joe Shlabotnik]

The 2026 Circle

[dmarx114]

2026 edition:

1. O'brien
2. Jojo

Bit of a gap.


3. Svanson (insanely unlucky babip)
4. Soriano
5. Stanek (just not enough strikes)

Replaceable:

6. Bruihl
7. Roycroft
8. Pushard

Kind of want ROB and Jojo to be the 3rd and 4th options out of the pen, not the 1st and 2nd. Svanson and Soriano should be like 7-8, not 3-4.

Good news is this part of the team is fixable.

1. O'Brien
2. Jojo
3. Soriano
4. Graceffo
5. Stanek
6. Svanson
7. Bruhil
8. Shuster

3-4-5 should be 6-7-8. Still need some tinkering.

[ghostrunner]

So Packy Naughton got injured last night in his 3rd pitch. Went off the field holding his elbow. Goold was just saying he’d likely be the next call up.

Mathews and Hence also had pretty bad outings.