When people that are wrong won't accept this truth

[docellis]

When people that are wrong won't accept that they are wrong - and the only reason they need to know they are wrong is so they won't be wrong again ---- but they won't "accept" they are wrong.

Which means the same issue will repeat itself.

How do you convince someone that it isn't a judgement against them if they are wrong - that they just need to see what the right answer is so as not to cause more problems repetitively?

[Popeye_Card]

I assume you mean how do you convince a man he is wrong, because I have learned the hard way that you shouldn't try to convince a woman that she is wrong.

--P--

[docellis]

I assume you mean how do you convince a man he is wrong, because I have learned the hard way that you shouldn't try to convince a woman that she is wrong.

--P--

I'm dealing with dual issues (prompted this thread).

Chick at work doesn't get something that a) she isn't remotely an expert about but acts as though she is and b) everyone is getting tired of this behavior and attempts at correcting it are not working.

And guy: when attempting constructive conversation about better communicatin - all I get is defensive posturing back. all i want is for us both to understand what we want from each other - not trying to change anyone --- only want to make communicating easier. he goes straight into attack and defend. exhausting. both of them.

[Arthur Dent]

How do you convince someone that it isn't a judgement against them if they are wrong - that they just need to see what the right answer is so as not to cause more problems repetitively?

Getting someone stubborn to admit they are wrong is probably futile. You have to give them an "out" so they can come around to your side without admitting anything. Or better yet, arrange it so the person feels the change has been by their own initiative.

[docellis]

How do you convince someone that it isn't a judgement against them if they are wrong - that they just need to see what the right answer is so as not to cause more problems repetitively?

Getting someone stubborn to admit they are wrong is probably futile. You have to give them an "out" so they can come around to your side without admitting anything. Or better yet, arrange it so the person feels the change has been by their own initiative.

good advice.

i think it is weak minded not to want to find the right answer though. It bothers me that someone would rather be pretend right than actually right.

[dangerous]

A couple of books that won't change them but could help you:

[arnie.k]

shout harder... threaten physical violence if all else fails...

i'm just kidding... what AD said is probably the smartest way to go...

[docellis]

nothing works.

[Jocephus]

i know a trick



but you wont like it



wish i could help

[clement]

i think it is weak minded not to want to find the right answer though. It bothers me that someone would rather be pretend right than actually right.

I think it's human nature. Just that some people are more stubborn than others in this regard.