Government Bureacracies

[vinsanity]

I recently had my wallet stolen, and then 260 bucks racked up in false credit card charges. This was the easiest thing to fix, believe it or not.

I am in Indiana but currently am only registered to drive in Missouri. Since I had lost my license I couldn't go to bars or technically drive. So I decided to get a new license while in Indiana.

1. You can not get a duplicate/renewed license from out of state (as far as I can tell) without being military personal. Otherwise you need to come back to MO or get a new license in your new state.

2. I took my Birth Certificate, SS Card and a School ID to the IN License Branch - thinking this would prove my ID to get me a License. They said they couldn't look up my driving record so I needed a clearance letter (but had I been pulled over for speeding and had an unpaid MO parking ticket I wonder if they'da known that?).

3. I had to send a notarized affidavit requesting a letter that said I held a valid drivers license in the state of MO. The letter also was needed to prove I was not on suspension or probation of driving privileges.

4. I receive said letter, and return to the IN License branch to return to my legal driving status. They make me take the test and do all this crap and then the lady looks at the letter and tells me she can't accept it. I'm like what? They said if I brought this I'm fine. She said well what's your License number. Told her I did not now my wallet and license had been stolen. She said I can't give you a license without that number. I asked if she could make one up? She said she needed the MO number. I asked why and her response "To prove your license isn't suspended or on probation." I said well the letter here has all of my info on it and says my license is valid in MO (I do believe there is a 'Full Faith and Credit' clause that says each state has to recognize legal documents of the others? Art IV, Sec 1) soooo why do you need the license number? Because that's what we need to prove you are a legal driver. So you need my license number from out of state, that you can't access, to prove what this signed legal government letter already says?

5. I call the MO Dept of Rev to request my License number, but apparently the feds have a law that says no personal info is allowed to be shared over the phone. They can ask for my social to verify I am me, but they can't give me my drivers license number. I said Ok can I have the IN Bureau of Motor Vehicles call you for the request? No, the only way you can obtain your license number is to send a signed affidavit requesting a clearance letter. I already requested a clearance letter. But I had to use my SSN because I didn't have my license number. Well then you can send another and specifically request that your License Number be included.

So in an attempt to be a law-abiding citizin I have had to jump through loop after loop after loop of bureaucratic BS. I'm now for a Federally funded/issued/approved ID instead of individual state id's. This is BS.

[maddash]

You could be Al Qaeda. This is all for our own safety.

Seriously though, half the time motor vehicle laws are so complicated that the people at the DMV don't know what do. And when you do get you IN license, make a photocopy of it (along with your credit cards and whatnot, front and back), it'll make things a lot easier when you lose them or get them stolen.

[planet planet]

And when you do get you IN license, make a photocopy of it (along with your credit cards and whatnot, front and back), it'll make things a lot easier when you lose them or get them stolen.

This is a good idea. That way in times of crises you can have all your important card numbers in one safe place. I'm going to do this when I get home.

[vinsanity]

And when you do get you IN license, make a photocopy of it (along with your credit cards and whatnot, front and back), it'll make things a lot easier when you lose them or get them stolen.

This is a good idea. That way in times of crises you can have all your important card numbers in one safe place. I'm going to do this when I get home.

This is a good idea.

Although knowing our Government they'll be too busy pardoning White Collar criminals to listen to my photo copy backup in case I lost it bs.

[Radio_Bugtussle]

Because you're from Missouri, the Indiana folk are afraid you might dumb down their basketball.

Do you look anything like Quin Snyder or Brad Sodeberg?

[vinsanity]

Do you look anything like Quin Snyder or Brad Sodeberg?

I look more like Matt Painter...
Edit - I was born here for God's Sake.