Car repairs - when it rains it pours...

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Re: Car repairs - when it rains it pours...

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cardinalkarp wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
jim wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:After shelling 450$ on the charcoal canister last week to get rid of the 'check engine' light, the freaking thing comes back on again. I'm tired of talking to the guys at the dealer - I havent called my siblings this often !! #&^&@$&
Ok, they said it was an unclean valve or something & fixed it quick.
Over/Under 30 days before the light comes back on..I'd say, Under.
From my experience I'd say under as well.
Good call, Jim. 3 days after they supposedly fixed it, the check engine light is back on !!
Going back to visit my buddies at the dealership tomorrow.
I think I would go in there laughing at them at this point asking them sarcastically "Do you guys have any clue what you're doing back there?"
I wouldn't do that. I've seen first hand what a service department can do to a customer they don't like.

(I used to sell cars)

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Re: Car repairs - when it rains it pours...

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Fat_Bulldog wrote:
cardinalkarp wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
jim wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:After shelling 450$ on the charcoal canister last week to get rid of the 'check engine' light, the freaking thing comes back on again. I'm tired of talking to the guys at the dealer - I havent called my siblings this often !! #&^&@$&
Ok, they said it was an unclean valve or something & fixed it quick.
Over/Under 30 days before the light comes back on..I'd say, Under.
From my experience I'd say under as well.
Good call, Jim. 3 days after they supposedly fixed it, the check engine light is back on !!
Going back to visit my buddies at the dealership tomorrow.
I think I would go in there laughing at them at this point asking them sarcastically "Do you guys have any clue what you're doing back there?"
I wouldn't do that. I've seen first hand what a service department can do to a customer they don't like.

(I used to sell cars)
Oh I know, I was joking. If I did decide to do that I would find a different dealer to take my car to.

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Re: Car repairs - when it rains it pours...

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Swatcat27 wrote:
jim wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:After shelling 450$ on the charcoal canister last week to get rid of the 'check engine' light, the freaking thing comes back on again. I'm tired of talking to the guys at the dealer - I havent called my siblings this often !! #&^&@$&
Ok, they said it was an unclean valve or something & fixed it quick.
Over/Under 30 days before the light comes back on..I'd say, Under.
From my experience I'd say under as well.
Good call, Jim. 3 days after they supposedly fixed it, the check engine light is back on !!
Going back to visit my buddies at the dealership tomorrow.
Crud. Are you getting this fixed because you need to pass an Emissions test, or just because you are concerned with the ominous "Check Engine" light? Because if it's the latter, I've never had a case where "Check Engine" being on had anything to do with how the car actually ran.

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Re: Car repairs - when it rains it pours...

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jim wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
jim wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:After shelling 450$ on the charcoal canister last week to get rid of the 'check engine' light, the freaking thing comes back on again. I'm tired of talking to the guys at the dealer - I havent called my siblings this often !! #&^&@$&
Ok, they said it was an unclean valve or something & fixed it quick.
Over/Under 30 days before the light comes back on..I'd say, Under.
From my experience I'd say under as well.
Good call, Jim. 3 days after they supposedly fixed it, the check engine light is back on !!
Going back to visit my buddies at the dealership tomorrow.
Crud. Are you getting this fixed because you need to pass an Emissions test, or just because you are concerned with the ominous "Check Engine" light? Because if it's the latter, I've never had a case where "Check Engine" being on had anything to do with how the car actually ran.
Im just getting it fixed..The car has run flawlessly for 7 years, this is my first real problem with the car...its annoying to see the check engine light being on. Besides, if I never get it fixed & something really important failed, I would never know.. The manuals say never to drive it with the check engine light on for any prolonged period.

At this point I have spent $450 on a new canister - the source of the problem per their diagnostics, so they better get it right.

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Re: Car repairs - when it rains it pours...

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Swatcat27 wrote:
jim wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
jim wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:After shelling 450$ on the charcoal canister last week to get rid of the 'check engine' light, the freaking thing comes back on again. I'm tired of talking to the guys at the dealer - I havent called my siblings this often !! #&^&@$&
Ok, they said it was an unclean valve or something & fixed it quick.
Over/Under 30 days before the light comes back on..I'd say, Under.
From my experience I'd say under as well.
Good call, Jim. 3 days after they supposedly fixed it, the check engine light is back on !!
Going back to visit my buddies at the dealership tomorrow.
Crud. Are you getting this fixed because you need to pass an Emissions test, or just because you are concerned with the ominous "Check Engine" light? Because if it's the latter, I've never had a case where "Check Engine" being on had anything to do with how the car actually ran.
Im just getting it fixed..The car has run flawlessly for 7 years, this is my first real problem with the car...its annoying to see the check engine light being on. Besides, if I never get it fixed & something really important failed, I would never know.. The manuals say never to drive it with the check engine light on for any prolonged period.

At this point I have spent $450 on a new canister - the source of the problem per their diagnostics, so they better get it right.
I understand, and now that I've had a chance to think about it I do remember a case where the check engine light came on and it was a major problem - although the car was acting bizarre so I didn't really need a light to tell me. But *if* the car is running normally otherwise, there is a very good chance the Check Engine light is nothing more than an electronic bit being set in the computer - nothing more.

It sounds like there is a chance that if you truly want that light to go off and stay off, you will need a new Catalytic Converter (~ $1200). I'm convinced that 90%+ of these problems are not the converter doing it's job, but some sensor that sends false positives that trigger the light.

I'm NOT a mechanic - so don't take what I say as gospel. Maybe an honest to goodness mechanic can stop in and comment one way or another.

It's just a shame that it's costing you time, money, and aggrevation and your car maybe in perfect running order and not producing harmful emissions.

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Re: Car repairs - when it rains it pours...

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jim wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
jim wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
jim wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:After shelling 450$ on the charcoal canister last week to get rid of the 'check engine' light, the freaking thing comes back on again. I'm tired of talking to the guys at the dealer - I havent called my siblings this often !! #&^&@$&
Ok, they said it was an unclean valve or something & fixed it quick.
Over/Under 30 days before the light comes back on..I'd say, Under.
From my experience I'd say under as well.
Good call, Jim. 3 days after they supposedly fixed it, the check engine light is back on !!
Going back to visit my buddies at the dealership tomorrow.
Crud. Are you getting this fixed because you need to pass an Emissions test, or just because you are concerned with the ominous "Check Engine" light? Because if it's the latter, I've never had a case where "Check Engine" being on had anything to do with how the car actually ran.
Im just getting it fixed..The car has run flawlessly for 7 years, this is my first real problem with the car...its annoying to see the check engine light being on. Besides, if I never get it fixed & something really important failed, I would never know.. The manuals say never to drive it with the check engine light on for any prolonged period.

At this point I have spent $450 on a new canister - the source of the problem per their diagnostics, so they better get it right.
I understand, and now that I've had a chance to think about it I do remember a case where the check engine light came on and it was a major problem - although the car was acting bizarre so I didn't really need a light to tell me. But *if* the car is running normally otherwise, there is a very good chance the Check Engine light is nothing more than an electronic bit being set in the computer - nothing more.

It sounds like there is a chance that if you truly want that light to go off and stay off, you will need a new Catalytic Converter (~ $1200). I'm convinced that 90%+ of these problems are not the converter doing it's job, but some sensor that sends false positives that trigger the light.

I'm NOT a mechanic - so don't take what I say as gospel. Maybe an honest to goodness mechanic can stop in and comment one way or another.

It's just a shame that it's costing you time, money, and aggrevation and your car maybe in perfect running order and not producing harmful emissions.
Evil word of the day - Catalytic Converters. hope it doesnt get that far.

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Re: Car repairs - when it rains it pours...

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Swatcat27 wrote:
jim wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
jim wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
jim wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:
Swatcat27 wrote:After shelling 450$ on the charcoal canister last week to get rid of the 'check engine' light, the freaking thing comes back on again. I'm tired of talking to the guys at the dealer - I havent called my siblings this often !! #&^&@$&
Ok, they said it was an unclean valve or something & fixed it quick.
Over/Under 30 days before the light comes back on..I'd say, Under.
From my experience I'd say under as well.
Good call, Jim. 3 days after they supposedly fixed it, the check engine light is back on !!
Going back to visit my buddies at the dealership tomorrow.
Crud. Are you getting this fixed because you need to pass an Emissions test, or just because you are concerned with the ominous "Check Engine" light? Because if it's the latter, I've never had a case where "Check Engine" being on had anything to do with how the car actually ran.
Im just getting it fixed..The car has run flawlessly for 7 years, this is my first real problem with the car...its annoying to see the check engine light being on. Besides, if I never get it fixed & something really important failed, I would never know.. The manuals say never to drive it with the check engine light on for any prolonged period.

At this point I have spent $450 on a new canister - the source of the problem per their diagnostics, so they better get it right.
I understand, and now that I've had a chance to think about it I do remember a case where the check engine light came on and it was a major problem - although the car was acting bizarre so I didn't really need a light to tell me. But *if* the car is running normally otherwise, there is a very good chance the Check Engine light is nothing more than an electronic bit being set in the computer - nothing more.

It sounds like there is a chance that if you truly want that light to go off and stay off, you will need a new Catalytic Converter (~ $1200). I'm convinced that 90%+ of these problems are not the converter doing it's job, but some sensor that sends false positives that trigger the light.

I'm NOT a mechanic - so don't take what I say as gospel. Maybe an honest to goodness mechanic can stop in and comment one way or another.

It's just a shame that it's costing you time, money, and aggrevation and your car maybe in perfect running order and not producing harmful emissions.
Evil word of the day - Catalytic Converters. hope it doesnt get that far.
Keep us informed - I'm curious how this all turns out. But if they changed the cannister and the light went off already ....

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jim wrote: Keep us informed - I'm curious how this all turns out. But if they changed the cannister and the light went off already ....
Exactly. The last time it came on was after they changed the charcoal canister & they said it was some connecting pipes & valves were dirty and that's why it came back on. The guys are pretty good for the most part but this has been their true test. I dropped off the car this morning & waiting by the phone to hear their reasons this time.

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Re: Car repairs - when it rains it pours...

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CE Update :
Per the mech guys, all Diagnostics still pointing to a bummed canister. Replacing the new canister with a newer one. :cool:

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Swatcat27 wrote:CE Update :
Per the mech guys, all Diagnostics still pointing to a bummed canister. Replacing the new canister with a newer one. :cool:
That really makes no sense.

Good luck, I think you are going to need it.

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