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Re: 2008 Payroll Thread

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jim wrote:Thanks for posting haltz - just one question. Not sure how to read the buyout. For example, you have Mulder as $7M in '08 with a 1.5M buyout in '09. What is his salary in '09 if they don't buy him out?
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2 years/$13M (2007-08), plus $11M 2009 club option

* re-signed as a free agent 1/07
* 07:$5M, 08:$6.5M, 09:$11M club option ($1.5M buyout)
* performance bonuses:
o 2007: $6.525M based on GS, up to 35 GS (added to 2008 base)
o 2008: $3.75M
* 2009 option may increase to match base & bonuses earned in 2008
* 4 years/$14.2M (2002-05), plus $7.25M 2006 option
o $0.2M signing bonus
o 02:$0.75M, 03:$2.6M, 04:$4.4M, 05:$6M, 06:$7.25M club option ($0.25M buyout) (vests 615 IP 2003-05) (vested at $7.75M 9/05)
o incentives may increase total value to $23.45M over 5 years
+ $1M in incentives for 2005 (to max 2005 salary of $7M)
+ $1M in incentives for 2006 club option
o 2003-2005 salaries were service class records at the time of signing
o $50,000 All Star incentive
o signed extension 9/01
* drafted 1998 (1-2), $3.2M signing bonus
* agent: Gregg Clifton
* ML service: 6.167

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jim wrote:Thanks for posting haltz - just one question. Not sure how to read the buyout. For example, you have Mulder as $7M in '08 with a 1.5M buyout in '09. What is his salary in '09 if they don't buy him out?
That's basically Cot's Cardinals page in spreadsheet form.

That $7M number for '08 is just a guess. Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I don't think there's any way to know that he made $186K a start this year. He could've made a million of his incentives for stepping on the mound the first time, or perhaps they didn't kick in until he made six starts, so I just prorated it.

I figured that lumping all of the options together was the best way to do it, at least for a more long-term look anyway. It would take a second page or get pretty messy to individualize all of that stuff as best as I can tell.

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Simbagal23 wrote:Uh-oh....who is Wainwright's agent and when is his big payday???

(Please tell me it's NOT Boras!)
I think AW will be arb eligible after the '08 season, but he won't get a big raise then. We have him for 4 more years before he's a FA. He'll get good money in year 5 & 6, which would be '10 and '11. More than likely they'll sign him to a contract that will carry him through his arb years next winter or after '09.

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Uh-oh....who is Wainwright's agent and when is his big payday???

(Please tell me it's NOT Boras!)

I couldn't find Wainwright's agent but I know that Anthony Reyes is a client of Boras.

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Thanks for the spreadsheets Fat Strat and Haltz.

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Fat Strat wrote:
RC21 wrote:A lot of money could be cleared by trading Rolen. Of course, then you've got a completely different hole on your roster.
I think we're stuck with Rolen:
2006 Runs Created - 101
2007 Runs Created - 51

Let's take a look at one more area that can be improved on offense without spending more money. Kennedy...
2006 Runs Created - 55
2007 Runs Created - 22
How many more wins does 73 runs translate to? Is it 4 or 5 runs to a win? I mean I could see 75 runs meaning at least another 10 wins...which does win us the central.

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Ten runs to a win.

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Leroy wrote:
jim wrote:Thanks for posting haltz - just one question. Not sure how to read the buyout. For example, you have Mulder as $7M in '08 with a 1.5M buyout in '09. What is his salary in '09 if they don't buy him out?
Mark Mulder p
2 years/$13M (2007-08), plus $11M 2009 club option

* re-signed as a free agent 1/07
* 07:$5M, 08:$6.5M, 09:$11M club option ($1.5M buyout)
I assume this means we'll be paying the buyout, barring a Cy Young type season from MM in '08.

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Pineiro didn't reach enough of his incentives to have the option kick in so he's just a regular old free agent.
I thought reaching the incentives (for games finished) meant it would change from a mutual option to a player option. Not eliminate the option altogether.

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haltz wrote:Ten runs to a win.
So if Kennedy and Rolen play to more than reasonable numbers we win 7 more games? That would put as 86 and an NL Central Title? Carp adds what? 2-3 wins? We'da been damn close to 90 games - not bad.

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