I will not pass Geology UPDATE: I passed -- I got a "C!"

[thrill]

My grades WIDELY varied and no school ever turned me away. Mizzou, Columbia College, SCCC, and more....
(I generally withdrew from a course if I thought the odds were bad though.)

Doc, I don't mean to indict your age here, but this was three years ago for me and I can tell you that academic costs and standards have skyrocketed since you were applying.

[dangerous]

I still don't get it- if you get a B on the 92% of the material you were present for you'll get a C.

[jim]

My grades WIDELY varied and no school ever turned me away. Mizzou, Columbia College, SCCC, and more....
(I generally withdrew from a course if I thought the odds were bad though.)

Doc, I don't mean to indict your age here, but this was three years ago for me and I can tell you that academic costs and standards have skyrocketed since you were applying.

My oldest is a Junior in college, so we went through this process a few years ago like thrill. I tend to agree that both costs and standards have gone up significantly since I went through this process. I was surprised (and a little worried for my son) at how competitive schools some schools were. There was definitely some uneasy moments waiting for letters from schools.

When you think about it, it makes sense. There were N kids back in 1980, there are M kids today where M >> N. Most schools enrollments have not gone up in proportion.

[dangerous]

Another question--can't you take an online course over Christmas from an accredited extension dept (I know BYU has one) and get your C and get into Geo 102?

[docellis]

My grades WIDELY varied and no school ever turned me away. Mizzou, Columbia College, SCCC, and more....
(I generally withdrew from a course if I thought the odds were bad though.)

Doc, I don't mean to indict your age here, but this was three years ago for me and I can tell you that academic costs and standards have skyrocketed since you were applying.

My oldest is a Junior in college, so we went through this process a few years ago like thrill. I tend to agree that both costs and standards have gone up significantly since I went through this process. I was surprised (and a little worried for my son) at how competitive schools some schools were. There was definitely some uneasy moments waiting for letters from schools.

When you think about it, it makes sense. There were N kids back in 1980, there are M kids today where M >> N. Most schools enrollments have not gone up in proportion.

I can't remember the cost per credit hour at Mizzou but I want to think tuition ended up being around $2500 a semester

[thrill]

There were N kids back in 1980, there are M kids today where M >> N. Most schools enrollments have not gone up in proportion.

To make matters worse there were N good jobs you could get without a degree then and there are M now.

N >> M.

Also the gap in the amount of money you can make without a degree compared to what you can make with a degree continues to grow.

This leads a higher percentage of a larger number of students to apply to colleges.

[Arthur Dent]

When you think about it, it makes sense. There were N kids back in 1980, there are M kids today where M >> N. Most schools enrollments have not gone up in proportion.

And the proportion, A, of kids who attended college today is greater than, Y, the percentage that went in 1980:

MA >>> NY

[Swirls]

My grades WIDELY varied and no school ever turned me away. Mizzou, Columbia College, SCCC, and more....
(I generally withdrew from a course if I thought the odds were bad though.)

Doc, I don't mean to indict your age here, but this was three years ago for me and I can tell you that academic costs and standards have skyrocketed since you were applying.

My oldest is a Junior in college, so we went through this process a few years ago like thrill. I tend to agree that both costs and standards have gone up significantly since I went through this process. I was surprised (and a little worried for my son) at how competitive schools some schools were. There was definitely some uneasy moments waiting for letters from schools.

When you think about it, it makes sense. There were N kids back in 1980, there are M kids today where M >> N. Most schools enrollments have not gone up in proportion.

I can't remember the cost per credit hour at Mizzou but I want to think tuition ended up being around $2500 a semester

I know tuition at Missouri-Rolla has gone up crazy. My Freshman year there (Fall 2002), in-state tuition was around $100/hour. By the time I graduated (Spring 2006), in-state tuition was almost $250/hour. My guess is Mizzou's was abuot the same rate, as they're all part of the University of Missouri system (UMR, MU, UMSL, UMKC, etc.).

[thrill]

By the time I graduated (Spring 2006), in-state tuition was almost $250/hour. My guess is Mizzou's was abuot the same rate, as they're all part of the University of Missouri system (UMR, MU, UMSL, UMKC, etc.).

In-State tuition for this current semester is $235 per credit hour for an in-state students. This is strictly academic cost. That is about $705 per class, with books about $805 per class.

Throw in living expenses...

[jim]

Tuition + books in 1981 was $700.

My son's school is over $30K with room and board.