KyCardinalFan wrote:I can't believe I'm referencing him, but I thought Woody Paige had a good point about the CotY. The Patriots were expected to win. They had the talent and experience already in place - how challenging was that coaching? Green Bay, on the other hand, had low expectations and seemingly came out of nowhere this season. A coach that gets to the playoffs (after a 3-13 season) with the 'lesser' talent would seem to be a 'better' coach. Mike McCarthy should be coach of the year.
I hope this is a joke. The Pats did something that wasn't supposed to happen in the free agent era. Go undefeated. I suppose you think that taking a bunch of overachievers deeper than they are expected to go means you should win coach of the year. So if the Cardinals were to go .500(because we are expected to not compete) next year than La Russa should get COTY?
IF you believe anything that Woody Paige says than you don't understand sports. Him and Bayless are both attention whores that will say anything in order to get that.
No, if the Cardinals reached .500, LaRussa shouldn't win COTY - not even Manager of the Year. If the Cardinals were to make the playoffs by winning the division after the expectation of them being a .500 team, then he should get strong consideration.
I'm not saying going undefeated is not an accomplishment, the league is definitely set up for parity. But they were 12-4 last year and nearly made it to the Super Bowl. Adding Randy Moss over the off-season easily improved the offense. Belichick didn't exactly get something out of nothing or had to.
If you read my first sentence I said, I can't believe I'm referencing Paige. I don't appreciate being told I don't understand sports. I know what I need to know to enjoy the games and I visit this board to both learn and share what I think.
To kind of echo kycardinalfan, I wish I could remember the exact stats/quote I heard on the radio the other day about Belichick's career w/l record with Tom Brady and without. This guy was throwing stats out there that almost proved Belichick is an average coach who happens to have an amazingly talented QB.
I don't know if it is true, I can't find the stats, but I thought it was interesting.
Windy City Flyer wrote:Look at any coaches record without a franchise QB or league average QB. Big difference for everyone.
Mike McCarthy had a franchise QB last year. And this year. Hmmm..
That tells me McCarthy badly mismanaged the team last year, and is doing well this year.
I think the chances of the Packers making the playoffs this year (especially in that division) were better than the chances of the Patriots going undefeated.
Windy City Flyer wrote:
I hope this is a joke. The Pats did something that wasn't supposed to happen in the free agent era. Go undefeated. I suppose you think that taking a bunch of overachievers deeper than they are expected to go means you should win coach of the year. So if the Cardinals were to go .500(because we are expected to not compete) next year than La Russa should get COTY?
Joe Girardi won the Manager of the Year when the Marlins finished with 78 wins. Because they were expected to be terrible.
Bill B did a great job this year. I have no problem with him winning. But I wouldn't have had a problem if others won it either.
Windy City Flyer wrote:Look at any coaches record without a franchise QB or league average QB. Big difference for everyone.
it's kinda like phil jackson.. he was a coaching god with jordan and pippen..
and shaq and kobe.. and now look.. the lakers lose shaq (who was a monster
when he played with them) and the lakers and jackson seem mediocre
