People who hate Hip Hop Music

[AdmiralKird]

I'm not sure what your point is. Either you're making a statement that one particular song is, in fact, "thug music," or you're using this one song to indict an entire genre. If it's the latter, that is ridiculous. Picking one song, out of thousands, proves nothing.

No, the fact is people hear songs like these that rise to the top of the charts and not others that might be considered good hip-hop music. The facts are this is why its called thug music, because this is all most people hear. People have lives, they don't all have time to sit down and dwelve into the intricacies of a genre of music. DJs get requests for songs like these, and this is what gets heard. It doesn't matter what really exists at the end of the foodchain. If you're going to complain about people calling hip-hop music, thug music, then stop making the kingpin talking about jizzing on a girls back. Seriously. You wonder and complain about it, but the reasons why its called thug music are perfectly logical and comprehensible.

[G. Keenan]

I'm not sure what your point is. Either you're making a statement that one particular song is, in fact, "thug music," or you're using this one song to indict an entire genre. If it's the latter, that is ridiculous. Picking one song, out of thousands, proves nothing.

No, the fact is people hear songs like these that rise to the top of the charts and not others that might be considered good hip-hop music. The facts are this is why its called thug music, because this is all most people hear. People have lives, they don't all have time to sit down and dwelve into the intricacies of a genre of music. DJs get requests for songs like these, and this is what gets heard. It doesn't matter what really exists at the end of the foodchain. If you're going to complain about people calling hip-hop music, thug music, then stop making the kingpin talking about jizzing on a girls back. Seriously. You wonder and complain about it, but the reasons why its called thug music are perfectly logical and comprehensible.

If you're making a point about why people think rap is thug music, that's one thing. It's another to say that it is thug music.

[haltz]

If you're going to complain about people calling hip-hop music, thug music, then stop making the kingpin talking about jizzing on a girls back.

So now anything that isn't straight missionary is considered thuggish? I guess if I like to wear water wings and be referred to as "The Conquistador" that makes me a thug too, huh?

[Ace]

My dream of jizzing on a girls back will never be fulfilled. I'm not thuggish enough.

[haltz]

Well, you can always try sneaking up on someone. Personally, I just make sure that I'm strapped like car seats. Your thug quotient won't be questioned either way.

[Cronos]

HOWEVER, it's the people that constantly insult it, calling it thug music

So..... A song with lyrics like:


Soulja Boy Off In This Hoe
Watch Me Lean And Watch Me Rock
Super Man Dat Hoe
Then Watch Me Crank Dat Robocop
Super Fresh, Now Watch Me Jock
Jocking On Them Haterz Man
When I Do Dat Soulja Boy
I Lean To The Left And Crank Dat thing
(Now Yua!)
I'm Jocking On Yo [expletive] Ass
And If We Get The Fightin
Then I'm Cocking On Your [expletive] ass
You Catch Me At Yo Local Party
Yes I Crank It Everyday
Haterz Get Mad Cuz
"I got me some bapes today"
Im 2 clean off in this hoe
Watch me crank it
Watch me roll
Watch me crank that roosavelt
And super soak that Hoe [x10]
Im to fresh up in this [expletive]
Watch me shuffle
Watch me jig
Watch me crank my shoulder work
Super man that [expletive]

Should be considered a work of art created with great musicianship and not 'thug' music?

Absolutely it should, especially when it meets the Internet such as in this situation:

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[clement]

Most mainstream anything is pretty horrid. It's not a unique phenomenon to rap/hip-hop.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that there is a high correlation between people who don't like rap music and people who do not enjoy dancing.

I disagree. Not that I don't like rap, but it's not my favorite genre by any means. But I like dancing and dance music. Yet I don't enjoy dancing much at all to techno or rap, and not even a little bit to what I will call "club" music. Give me a good song with a melody and a nice groove and I'll take that any day for either dancing or listening to. I'd much rather dance to Marvin Gaye or REM or Parliament or AC/DC or the Ramones or Public Enemy than to the rap/techno/club music/dance music you hear when you go to most places that have a dance floor. You don't need a forced dance beat put on a song to make it a good song to dance to.

[G. Keenan]

Most mainstream anything is pretty horrid. It's not a unique phenomenon to rap/hip-hop.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that there is a high correlation between people who don't like rap music and people who do not enjoy dancing.

I disagree. Not that I don't like rap, but it's not my favorite genre by any means. But I like dancing and dance music. Yet I don't enjoy dancing much at all to techno or rap, and not even a little bit to what I will call "club" music. Give me a good song with a melody and a nice groove and I'll take that any day for either dancing or listening to. I'd much rather dance to Marvin Gaye or REM or Parliament or AC/DC or the Ramones or Public Enemy than to the rap/techno/club music/dance music you hear when you go to most places that have a dance floor. You don't need a forced dance beat put on a song to make it a good song to dance to.

Yeah, I was just trying to stir the pot. There's lots of great music to dance to that isn't rap.

[Bo Hart]

My dream of jizzing on a girls back will never be fulfilled. I'm not thuggish enough.

LOL.


I don't like mainstream rap. Well, admittedly, some of it has some good beats and whatnot, but the stuff with the "dirty" lyrics just sucks. Ugh. I can't stand that. A song can have the best beat in the world, but if it just swears for the sake of swearing I'm not going to listen to it. I've mentioned before that I can't stand the song "Crazy [expletive]" -- my roommate, however, loves it. He also happens to love [expletive] mainstream rap. So in reality, it's not just rap that I hate, it's any music that tries to target listeners with taboo lyrics.

I'll concede that I could work out to a lot of the rap I dislike, though.

[Popeye_Card]

I like a lot of rap and hip hop.

That said, a good portion of the lyrics are indeed about 5 things:

1.) Women being either hot or a b*tch (sometimes both)
2.) Street violence of some form (either being a the perp or the victim)
3.) How much money one makes
4.) A portion of the anatomy (usually a female's) and/or sex
5.) Some kind of "rivalry" with another rapper, and/or the superiority of one's MC skills in comparison to others

But that's alright, I think. Most rock songs could be broken down into about 5 categories as well (off the top of my head, 1. being in love, 2. broken hearts, 3. drug addiction, 4. rocking, 5. gettin' your drink on. Note: category 5 was added strictly for George Thorogood). So why do we treat rap differently? Well, because in the popular lexicon songs about love are considered much more "normal" than songs about street violence, bling, and sex.

I personally don't have a problem with rap lyrics. I couldn't imagine many popular rap songs properly addressing social issues (although some do) or love in the way rock songs do. It's just different.

But I can see why some have an issue with popularizing the "hip hop lifestyle" of violence, drugs, etc. At the same time, people have lambasted the "rock and roll" lifestyle of partying and women for a long time too.