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wart57 wrote:
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wart57 wrote:I guess I am ignorant too, because too much of it seems violent and glorifies the wrong things, and I really don't have the time to wade through stuff I don't care for just to find something that is not glorifying drugs, violence, treating women likeke objects, being a pimp, and other such negative ideals. I also don't like a lot of other music because it is portraying the wrong things also. I am sorry if I don't want my daughter to hear this crap when we are out for a walk and some dude goes by with his music so loud I feel like my teath are going to shatter, but on the other hand if it is the type of music you like, listen too it. It is not up to me to decide what you should listen too.
Well said Wart. Like I mentioned earlier, I was checking out all this stuff on my teenage daughter's ipod, much of it downloaded on my dollar. Its crap plain and simple. I don't mind that other people like it, but do mind when that obnoxious junk is forced upon me-ruining my favorite bar. Its target audience is teenagers, no doubt. but then my 9 year old nephews ipod is loaded with it too. I can't help but think that they are the target audience.

I know this makes me sound like an old fuddy duddy that can't remember how the music I grew up with was not all wholesome either- satanic and drug-worshipping and objectifying women. But I never forced it on others and never never hoped my little sister would like it. The hip hop is different. It claims itself as a culture even- a culture of ?
I simply don't see how hip hop is being "forced" on anyone? How is that even possible?

As prevalent as modern mass-media is, it's still largely distributed in a passive format - meaning, the choice to listen to it or not is YOURS, not anyone else's.
When I have to listen to someone elses music blaring as they drive by is not forcing it on me?
Not in a true sense, but I'm fine with making that distinction. So what is to be done about that?

And is hearing loud music from cars enough to generalize an entire genre as good or bad?

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maddash wrote:
wart57 wrote:
maddash wrote:
Freed Roger wrote:
wart57 wrote:I guess I am ignorant too, because too much of it seems violent and glorifies the wrong things, and I really don't have the time to wade through stuff I don't care for just to find something that is not glorifying drugs, violence, treating women likeke objects, being a pimp, and other such negative ideals. I also don't like a lot of other music because it is portraying the wrong things also. I am sorry if I don't want my daughter to hear this crap when we are out for a walk and some dude goes by with his music so loud I feel like my teath are going to shatter, but on the other hand if it is the type of music you like, listen too it. It is not up to me to decide what you should listen too.
Well said Wart. Like I mentioned earlier, I was checking out all this stuff on my teenage daughter's ipod, much of it downloaded on my dollar. Its crap plain and simple. I don't mind that other people like it, but do mind when that obnoxious junk is forced upon me-ruining my favorite bar. Its target audience is teenagers, no doubt. but then my 9 year old nephews ipod is loaded with it too. I can't help but think that they are the target audience.

I know this makes me sound like an old fuddy duddy that can't remember how the music I grew up with was not all wholesome either- satanic and drug-worshipping and objectifying women. But I never forced it on others and never never hoped my little sister would like it. The hip hop is different. It claims itself as a culture even- a culture of ?
I simply don't see how hip hop is being "forced" on anyone? How is that even possible?

As prevalent as modern mass-media is, it's still largely distributed in a passive format - meaning, the choice to listen to it or not is YOURS, not anyone else's.
When I have to listen to someone elses music blaring as they drive by is not forcing it on me?
Not in a true sense, but I'm fine with making that distinction. So what is to be done about that?

And is hearing loud music from cars enough to generalize an entire genre as good or bad?
I think the ofenders should be water-boarded myself......

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wart57 wrote:
When I have to listen to someone elses music blaring as they drive by is not forcing it on me?
People do this with music of all types though. Just this weekend I heard a teenage girl rocking out to the Spice Girls. I'll probably hear someone with rock turned up way too loud later this week.

Do you realize how much this complaining sounds like old folks in the 1950's, complaining about those darn kids and their rock and roll music? And Elvis' vulgar movements on TV?

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At least Steven Jackson gets his fix at the TWA dome (or whatever they call it).

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When I have to listen to someone elses music blaring as they drive by is not forcing it on me?
People do this with music of all types though. Just this weekend I heard a teenage girl rocking out to the Spice Girls. I'll probably hear someone with rock turned up way too loud later this week.

Do you realize how much this complaining sounds like old folks in the 1950's, complaining about those darn kids and their rock and roll music? And Elvis' vulgar movements on TV?
It is al Evis' fault.......

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Socnorb11 wrote:
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So you're willing to split music into different sub genres, but not rap in to different sub genres? Why is that?
It's not that I'm not willing to, I'm just not sure I've got the time or know-how.

I understand how some people could, though.
So you understand that while you're being grossly unfair to rap artists, you're willing to live with that for the sake of economizing your time.

Not something I'd feel right doing, but I can't it's not a valid choice.
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Frankie says Relax.....

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So you're willing to split music into different sub genres, but not rap in to different sub genres? Why is that?
It's not that I'm not willing to, I'm just not sure I've got the time or know-how.

I understand how some people could, though.
So you understand that while you're being grossly unfair to rap artists, you're willing to live with that for the sack of economizing your time.

Not something I'd feel right doing, but I can't it's not a valid choice.
How am I being unfair to them? I've already said that I'm sure some of them are fine.

And yes, my time is FAR more valuable than any debt that you feel that I may owe to the rap community.

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wart57 wrote:Frankie says Relax.....
Stop forcing your masterbatorial lyrics on me!!! :P

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Popeye_Card wrote:
wart57 wrote:
When I have to listen to someone elses music blaring as they drive by is not forcing it on me?
People do this with music of all types though. Just this weekend I heard a teenage girl rocking out to the Spice Girls. I'll probably hear someone with rock turned up way too loud later this week.

Do you realize how much this complaining sounds like old folks in the 1950's, complaining about those darn kids and their rock and roll music? And Elvis' vulgar movements on TV?
Right, but there's no other music genre that's as inappropriate for the general public to be exposed to as rap is.

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