People who hate Hip Hop Music

[maddash]

You've created some weird paradox where you feel you can get away with saying "some of them are fine", while also saying that you don't have the time to make a distinction between the vulgar rappers and clean ones.

I don't think you can have it both ways.

It's the same as anything else. Like I said, I don't know all of the kids that hang around at the park at night. I do know that there's been a lot of vandalism down there. I'm sure some of the kids are fine. I don't have the time or inclination to go down to the park and get to know them all.

If that's the case, then you are by definition speaking from ignorance, and really aren't in the position to generalize the group (genre) fairly.

[wart57]

When I have to listen to someone elses music blaring as they drive by is not forcing it on me?

People do this with music of all types though. Just this weekend I heard a teenage girl rocking out to the Spice Girls. I'll probably hear someone with rock turned up way too loud later this week.

Do you realize how much this complaining sounds like old folks in the 1950's, complaining about those darn kids and their rock and roll music? And Elvis' vulgar movements on TV?

Right, but there's no other music genre that's as inappropriate for the general public to be exposed to as rap is.

Depends on what rap song vs. what rock song is being played at high volumes. Don't you think? There are tons of rock songs with very vulgar lyrics.

She F***ing Hates me is a great rock tune that I don't want my Daughter to hear, and I won't listen to it loudly in my car either, I don't want to subject everryone to the language in the song, but I still think it is a kick a$$ song.

[Socnorb11]

I've heard some of the lyrics. That's all I really need to know, isn't it? While I don't claim to have much knowledge about rap music, I've seen the lyrics.

I don't know much about electricity either, but I won't be sticking my tongue in a light socket.

A more á propos analogy would be going to three Cardinals games, watching Aaron Miles have three great games, watching Albert Pujols have three poor ones, and stating matter of factly that Miles is the superior player.

How is that an appropriate anaology. I don't follow. I've seen and heard enough about Pujols and Miles to know that one is good and one is bad.

I've listened to enough country music to know there's NOTHING as in inappropriate as some of the lyrics that I've seen from rap.

[Socnorb11]

You've created some weird paradox where you feel you can get away with saying "some of them are fine", while also saying that you don't have the time to make a distinction between the vulgar rappers and clean ones.

I don't think you can have it both ways.

It's the same as anything else. Like I said, I don't know all of the kids that hang around at the park at night. I do know that there's been a lot of vandalism down there. I'm sure some of the kids are fine. I don't have the time or inclination to go down to the park and get to know them all.

If that's the case, then you are by definition speaking from ignorance, and really aren't in the position to generalize the group (genre) fairly.

There's nothing ignorant about it. I already stated that some rap is probably fine, and some is horrific. How is that generalizing the whole genre unfairly?

[JL21]

How is that an appropriate anaology. I don't follow. I've seen and heard enough about Pujols and Miles to know that one is good and one is bad.

In the analogy, you're basing the conclusion on 3 games- nowhere near enough information.

I've listened to enough country music to know there's NOTHING as in inappropriate as some of the lyrics that I've seen from rap.

Nothing? Really? David Allan Coe?

[omaha_red]

When I have to listen to someone elses music blaring as they drive by is not forcing it on me?

People do this with music of all types though. Just this weekend I heard a teenage girl rocking out to the Spice Girls. I'll probably hear someone with rock turned up way too loud later this week.

Do you realize how much this complaining sounds like old folks in the 1950's, complaining about those darn kids and their rock and roll music? And Elvis' vulgar movements on TV?

Right, but there's no other music genre that's as inappropriate for the general public to be exposed to as rap is.

I'm very confused by this. You've claimed ignorance about rap about a million times in this thread. But then you state matter-of-factly that it's more inappropriate for the public than any other music genre. Which is it? Either you're ignorant about the genre, or you know enough about it to condemn it as being inappropriate for the public? You can't have it both ways.

I've heard some of the lyrics. That's all I really need to know, isn't it? While I don't claim to have much knowledge about rap music, I've seen the lyrics.

I don't know much about electricity either, but I won't be sticking my tongue in a light socket.

there you go generalizing again.. and what did we learn about generalizing? how does
that make you sound?

[Socnorb11]

How is that an appropriate anaology. I don't follow. I've seen and heard enough about Pujols and Miles to know that one is good and one is bad.

In the analogy, you're basing the conclusion on 3 games- nowhere near enough information.

I've listened to enough country music to know there's NOTHING as in inappropriate as some of the lyrics that I've seen from rap.

Nothing? Really? David Allan Coe?

Link me to the most inappropriate David Allan Coe lyrics that you can find. I'll link you to some rap lyrics. I doubt if there's much comparison.

You're right in the baseball analogy. There wouldn't be enough information. However, that's not a good analogy. I know enough about country music to know that there's nothing as bad as a few of the rap lyrics that I've seen. I've got plenty of information to conclude that.

[planet planet]

How is that an appropriate anaology. I don't follow. I've seen and heard enough about Pujols and Miles to know that one is good and one is bad.

In the analogy, you're basing the conclusion on 3 games- nowhere near enough information.

which is the same sample size as your self described rap exposure.

[omaha_red]

Nothing? Really? David Allan Coe?

WINNER!!!! NAT LIGHT POST OF THE DAY!!!!

[JL21]

How is that an appropriate anaology. I don't follow. I've seen and heard enough about Pujols and Miles to know that one is good and one is bad.

In the analogy, you're basing the conclusion on 3 games- nowhere near enough information.

I've listened to enough country music to know there's NOTHING as in inappropriate as some of the lyrics that I've seen from rap.

Nothing? Really? David Allan Coe?

Link me to the most inappropriate David Allan Coe lyrics that you can find. I'll link you to some rap lyrics. I doubt if there's much comparison.

You're right in the baseball analogy. There wouldn't be enough information. However, that's not a good analogy. I know enough about country music to know that there's nothing as bad as a few of the rap lyrics that I've seen. I've got plenty of information to conclude that.

Scroll down to "Selected Discography".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Allan_Coe