Radbird wrote:With all due respect, lipp, if playing the game at the level you are announcing were a prerequisite, most of our greatest announcers in all sports would have no insight.
Play by play, I agree with you. Color is different. To me, you need to have played or coached at the level you are providing analysis of to get any "cred" from me.
I think it's the voice and the fact that I'm just not used to it.
And I would be open to a woman doing PBP or color just so long as the person they are replacing sucks. For example, if Woman A is better than Tim McCarver or Joe Morgan (and that wouldn't be too hard because I'd wager that 95 percent of GRB is more capable than those two dimwits) then by all means.
But they shouldn't be adding women just because. I've heard Doris Burke and I'm not impressed.
Regarding the female NBA ref mentioned earlier, she did the Celtics-Hawks game (which I attended!) this past Saturday. She did fine....but what I loved is when constant cry baby Sam Cassell was complaining to her about something, she just completely turned her back on him. It's obvious she has dealt with children before......
Regarding female announcers, as already stated...some are good, some are not so good. Same with the males....
GatewaySnayke wrote:
And I would be open to a woman doing PBP or color just so long as the person they are replacing sucks. For example, if Woman A is better than Tim McCarver or Joe Morgan (and that wouldn't be too hard because I'd wager that 95 percent of GRB is more capable than those two dimwits) then by all means.
But they shouldn't be adding women just because. I've heard Doris Burke and I'm not impressed.
So mediocre women have less right to a job than mediocre men?
lukethedrifter wrote:I really think it's about the sound of the voice. It just takes some getting used to. And I'm not used to it yet.
Nothing wrong with a woman announcing, but it does sound odd, doesn't it.
That's a perfect summary. There is nothing WRONG with it, but I can totally see where someone doesn't like it. Now of course, the do-gooder crowd will cry foul - you can't discriminate on a persons voice. Well, yes you can, when the good chunk of the job is the voice. In fact, you do it all the time. I don't like Tim McCarver, mostly because his voice is grating. I LOVE John Miller ... and it almost has everything to do with the silky smooth delivery. Why can't I say I don't like a women's voice due to the feminine nature of it?
Personally I'm not interested in hearling a color commentator who didn't play in that league. That would "discriminate" against men as well as women - no thanks to Bill Walton doing a WNBA game.
As far as play by play for major league baseball? Nothing wrong with it, but the feminine nature of the voice is probably going to not be to my liking after hearing 45 years of a man's voice.
This thread is a good example of how hard it is for women and minorities to get jobs in areas where they haven't traditionally been represented.
I imagine the first time there was a woman news anchor many people reacted this way too. I wonder how people reacted to Jackie Robinson when he first joined the Dodgers.
Anyone thinks Hilary Clinton doesn't face this issue?