Hillary Clinton

[clevername]

I don't know that her comments were all that stupid.

I've been voting age for 12 years. I haven't found much to be proud of. That doesn't mean I don't love my country, it just means the country hasn't been run well in a while.

This ties in with the lapel pin thing, but I hate that patriotism gets wound up in this always proud of what your country does/support everything ball of non-logic based mindlessness.

[KyCardinalFan]

BOCA RATON, Fla. - Hillary Clinton compared her effort to seat Florida and Michigan delegates to epic American struggles, including those to free the slaves and win the right to vote for blacks and women.

Holy crap! I don't know whether to laugh or cry....!??! She CHEATED. She really doesn't get it, does she?

How'd she cheat?

[OmahaCard79]

I don't know that her comments were all that stupid.

I've been voting age for 12 years. I haven't found much to be proud of. That doesn't mean I don't love my country, it just means the country hasn't been run well in a while.

This ties in with the lapel pin thing, but I hate that patriotism gets wound up in this always proud of what your country does/support everything ball of non-logic based mindlessness.

QFT

I've been voting age for only 11 years myself. In that time, we've had presidential sex scandals, impeachment hearings, a disputed election, complacent national security that allowed terrorist attacks, a repeat of the vietnam war, a sagging economy, rising prices, mortgage meltdowns, and a general lessening of the United States image on the world stage.

I can honestly say, that in my adult life (as short as it's been), I've had very few instances when I've genuinely felt "proud" of my country and my heritage. I've honestly felt that the america that my parents and grandparents lived in and help build has been eroded beyond recognition by corrupt politicians and greedy corporations.

I'd truly love to feel differently.

[KyCardinalFan]

At least her husband didn't say this was the first time he has been proud of his country, I bet there would be trouble then! Thank god she doesn't have a personal relationship with a pastor who loves to make inflammatory remarks, cause she would be run out of the election then...... or not.

McCain has met with and been endorsed by pastors who have said far more inflammatory things than what that wacko Wright has said. Although, he was not his pastor, mccain did have a personal relationship with the guy. Yet, no one cares about that.

Obama's spouse made some stupid comments. Of course, the stupid comments and actions of Hillary's "spouse" could fill volumes.

You are right about that, I just find it interesting how almost nothing sticks to Obama, and every thing Hillary does and says gets blasted.

I think it's because Hillary has been in the public eye so long, people think they know her and know the reasons behind her actions. Obama is such a new face, people are giving him the benefit of the doubt. However, that impression of inexperience could get him in the end if the GOP continues to form his identity regarding the lapel pin, his wife and whether he is Muslim.

[OmahaCard79]

At least her husband didn't say this was the first time he has been proud of his country, I bet there would be trouble then! Thank god she doesn't have a personal relationship with a pastor who loves to make inflammatory remarks, cause she would be run out of the election then...... or not.

McCain has met with and been endorsed by pastors who have said far more inflammatory things than what that wacko Wright has said. Although, he was not his pastor, mccain did have a personal relationship with the guy. Yet, no one cares about that.

Obama's spouse made some stupid comments. Of course, the stupid comments and actions of Hillary's "spouse" could fill volumes.

You are right about that, I just find it interesting how almost nothing sticks to Obama, and every thing Hillary does and says gets blasted.

I think it's because Hillary has been in the public eye so long, people think they know her and know the reasons behind her actions. Obama is such a new face, people are giving him the benefit of the doubt. However, that impression of inexperience could get him in the end if the GOP continues to form his identity regarding the lapel pin, his wife and whether he is Muslim.

the lapel pin thing is so stupid it's not even funny. If I were a politician, you wouldn't catch me wearing one. You shouldn't have to wear one. I never realized it's part of the uniform. There are plenty of ways to be patriotic, if one so chooses, rather than being guilted into wearing a contrived and tired piece of jewelry.

[KyCardinalFan]

I don't know that her comments were all that stupid.

I've been voting age for 12 years. I haven't found much to be proud of. That doesn't mean I don't love my country, it just means the country hasn't been run well in a while.

This ties in with the lapel pin thing, but I hate that patriotism gets wound up in this always proud of what your country does/support everything ball of non-logic based mindlessness.

QFT

I've been voting age for only 11 years myself. In that time, we've had presidential sex scandals, impeachment hearings, a disputed election, complacent national security that allowed terrorist attacks, a repeat of the vietnam war, a sagging economy, rising prices, mortgage meltdowns, and a general lessening of the United States image on the world stage.

I can honestly say, that in my adult life (as short as it's been), I've had very few instances when I've genuinely felt "proud" of my country and my heritage. I've honestly felt that the america that my parents and grandparents lived in and help build has been eroded beyond recognition by corrupt politicians and greedy corporations.

I'd truly love to feel differently.

I don't think she meant to say, "For the first time in my life", either. I think she meant the first time in a long time.

[Leroy]

At least her husband didn't say this was the first time he has been proud of his country, I bet there would be trouble then! Thank god she doesn't have a personal relationship with a pastor who loves to make inflammatory remarks, cause she would be run out of the election then...... or not.

McCain has met with and been endorsed by pastors who have said far more inflammatory things than what that wacko Wright has said. Although, he was not his pastor, mccain did have a personal relationship with the guy. Yet, no one cares about that.

Obama's spouse made some stupid comments. Of course, the stupid comments and actions of Hillary's "spouse" could fill volumes.

You are right about that, I just find it interesting how almost nothing sticks to Obama, and every thing Hillary does and says gets blasted.

I think it's because Hillary has been in the public eye so long, people think they know her and know the reasons behind her actions. Obama is such a new face, people are giving him the benefit of the doubt. However, that impression of inexperience could get him in the end if the GOP continues to form his identity regarding the lapel pin, his wife and whether he is Muslim.

the lapel pin thing is so stupid it's not even funny. If I were a politician, you wouldn't catch me wearing one. You shouldn't have to wear one. I never realized it's part of the uniform. There are plenty of ways to be patriotic, if one so chooses, rather than being guilted into wearing a contrived and tired piece of jewelry.

I think it is stupid too...but question why he decided to wear one the other day.

[OmahaCard79]

At least her husband didn't say this was the first time he has been proud of his country, I bet there would be trouble then! Thank god she doesn't have a personal relationship with a pastor who loves to make inflammatory remarks, cause she would be run out of the election then...... or not.

McCain has met with and been endorsed by pastors who have said far more inflammatory things than what that wacko Wright has said. Although, he was not his pastor, mccain did have a personal relationship with the guy. Yet, no one cares about that.

Obama's spouse made some stupid comments. Of course, the stupid comments and actions of Hillary's "spouse" could fill volumes.

You are right about that, I just find it interesting how almost nothing sticks to Obama, and every thing Hillary does and says gets blasted.

I think it's because Hillary has been in the public eye so long, people think they know her and know the reasons behind her actions. Obama is such a new face, people are giving him the benefit of the doubt. However, that impression of inexperience could get him in the end if the GOP continues to form his identity regarding the lapel pin, his wife and whether he is Muslim.

the lapel pin thing is so stupid it's not even funny. If I were a politician, you wouldn't catch me wearing one. You shouldn't have to wear one. I never realized it's part of the uniform. There are plenty of ways to be patriotic, if one so chooses, rather than being guilted into wearing a contrived and tired piece of jewelry.

I think it is stupid too...but question why he decided to wear one the other day.

I guess I just don't have a problem if he wears one some days and not on others. To me, it's just like an accessory. It's not like we'd be freaking out if he wore a watch one day and not on other days. It's a pin. Maybe he just felt like wearing it one day. I just don't think that's a real issue.

It's not like he's walking around sporting a cubs hat at his rallies in illinois, then putting on a cardinals cap in Missouri pandering for votes. That would be something to get riled up about. j/k.

[wart57]

At least her husband didn't say this was the first time he has been proud of his country, I bet there would be trouble then! Thank god she doesn't have a personal relationship with a pastor who loves to make inflammatory remarks, cause she would be run out of the election then...... or not.

McCain has met with and been endorsed by pastors who have said far more inflammatory things than what that wacko Wright has said. Although, he was not his pastor, mccain did have a personal relationship with the guy. Yet, no one cares about that.

Obama's spouse made some stupid comments. Of course, the stupid comments and actions of Hillary's "spouse" could fill volumes.

You are right about that, I just find it interesting how almost nothing sticks to Obama, and every thing Hillary does and says gets blasted.

I think it's because Hillary has been in the public eye so long, people think they know her and know the reasons behind her actions. Obama is such a new face, people are giving him the benefit of the doubt. However, that impression of inexperience could get him in the end if the GOP continues to form his identity regarding the lapel pin, his wife and whether he is Muslim.

the lapel pin thing is so stupid it's not even funny. If I were a politician, you wouldn't catch me wearing one. You shouldn't have to wear one. I never realized it's part of the uniform. There are plenty of ways to be patriotic, if one so chooses, rather than being guilted into wearing a contrived and tired piece of jewelry.

I think it is stupid too...but question why he decided to wear one the other day.

I guess I just don't have a problem if he wears one some days and not on others. To me, it's just like an accessory. It's not like we'd be freaking out if he wore a watch one day and not on other days. It's a pin. Maybe he just felt like wearing it one day. I just don't think that's a real issue.

It's not like he's walking around sporting a cubs hat at his rallies in illinois, then putting on a cardinals cap in Missouri pandering for votes. That would be something to get riled up about. j/k.

If he sometimes wore an American flag watch and then other times did not, would that be worth mentioning?

[Leroy]

I hear ya...I just thought his stance was fine, then it kinda changed.

All healed from the bike crash, by the way?