Cutting Dale from Top Chef

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G. Keenan wrote:Me either. What was he supposed to do? He can't cook the whole menu himself so he's got to delegate.
What he should have done was kick Lisa out of the kitchen and into the front of the house, and then got Spike back there to make the food right. If Lisa was going to quit, then she would be sent home as well. Dale was in charge and he did a bad job of leading. Lisa sucks too, but Dale was the leader. Leaders go down with the ship.
Lisa also wanted to be executive chef. They flipped for it, remember? Once the roles are picked they stick to them. They're a team; Dale isn't Lisa's real-life boss, he can't just tell her to leave the kitchen. The Laksa and the rice were already screwed up before service even began, what could be done about that? Can't go to the store and buy more ingredients to make it again. What would the point be of sending Lisa out to be front of house after the dishes were made? Do you think Spike could have fixed them back in the kitchen?
Dale is executive chef. He should know that his neck is on the line if his team goes down. It happened to Nikki (whose team he was on two weeks ago); it happened to Tre; it happens to everyone who is the leader. If Lisa's blowing it big time, he should have done what Bourdain told him to do: lay into her until she does it right. It doesn't matter if he's not her "real life boss"--he's the boss for that challenge. If she doesn't get in line, then he made it clear he was doing everything he could to make everything right. Instead he muttered under his breath, ran around swearing (as usual), and acting like a pissy child because his avocado was brown.

Maybe Spike could salvage some of the dishes. But they also were offering two choices for every course it seemed. That didn't seem to be part of the challenge's requirements. Dale could have chosen to pull the crappy dishes (laska, scallops, sticky rice...) and gone with one selection for each course.

Lisa may have messed up more food dishes, but Dale was ultimately in charge of everything that went out the door. Either Dale or Lisa could have gone home for their performance. The judges picked the guy who was running the operation.

If Dale had done a great job and gone home for all Lisa's screw-ups it would be a different story. But Dale also put out some crappy food, and had a crappy attitude.

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BenNX74205 wrote:
G. Keenan wrote:
BenNX74205 wrote:
G. Keenan wrote:Me either. What was he supposed to do? He can't cook the whole menu himself so he's got to delegate.
What he should have done was kick Lisa out of the kitchen and into the front of the house, and then got Spike back there to make the food right. If Lisa was going to quit, then she would be sent home as well. Dale was in charge and he did a bad job of leading. Lisa sucks too, but Dale was the leader. Leaders go down with the ship.
Lisa also wanted to be executive chef. They flipped for it, remember? Once the roles are picked they stick to them. They're a team; Dale isn't Lisa's real-life boss, he can't just tell her to leave the kitchen. The Laksa and the rice were already screwed up before service even began, what could be done about that? Can't go to the store and buy more ingredients to make it again. What would the point be of sending Lisa out to be front of house after the dishes were made? Do you think Spike could have fixed them back in the kitchen?
Dale is executive chef. He should know that his neck is on the line if his team goes down. It happened to Nikki (whose team he was on two weeks ago); it happened to Tre; it happens to everyone who is the leader. If Lisa's blowing it big time, he should have done what Bourdain told him to do: lay into her until she does it right. It doesn't matter if he's not her "real life boss"--he's the boss for that challenge. If she doesn't get in line, then he made it clear he was doing everything he could to make everything right. Instead he muttered under his breath, ran around swearing (as usual), and acting like a pissy child because his avocado was brown.

Maybe Spike could salvage some of the dishes. But they also were offering two choices for every course it seemed. That didn't seem to be part of the challenge's requirements. Dale could have chosen to pull the crappy dishes (laska, scallops, sticky rice...) and gone with one selection for each course.

Lisa may have messed up more food dishes, but Dale was ultimately in charge of everything that went out the door. Either Dale or Lisa could have gone home for their performance. The judges picked the guy who was running the operation.

If Dale had done a great job and gone home for all Lisa's screw-ups it would be a different story. But Dale also put out some crappy food, and had a crappy attitude.
bah

I just don't like Lisa and want her to go home. She's been consistently mediocre the whole show and always seems to narrowly escape, plus she has a terrible attitude and never accepts criticism.

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G. Keenan wrote:bah

I just don't like Lisa and want her to go home. She's been consistently mediocre the whole show and always seems to narrowly escape, plus she has a terrible attitude and never accepts criticism.
I don't like Lisa either. She did win the Movie Food challenge, so she's probably in the top half of the total pool of contestants. Her attitude does suck and she always makes the same types of food.

But I think the exact same thing about Dale.

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G. Keenan wrote:bah

I just don't like Lisa and want her to go home. She's been consistently mediocre the whole show and always seems to narrowly escape, plus she has a terrible attitude and never accepts criticism.
I don't like Lisa either. She did win the Movie Food challenge, so she's probably in the top half of the total pool of contestants. Her attitude does suck and she always makes the same types of food.

But I think the exact same thing about Dale.
If the knock against Dale is that he always makes Asian food I don't think that's a very big knock. Like Bourdain said in that episode, Asia is enormous. There's a bogillion (my new number) kinds of Asian food and it's perfect for "fusion" cuisine.

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Plus, they only notice Dale's Asian food because it's the most distinguished. I haven't watched all of the episodes 30 times like I did last season, but how often have the other chefs dabbled in Asian or Moroccan or Ethiopian and whatnot? Everything they make is something French or American.

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What is this show?

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I'm finally seeing Restaurant Wars.

God, I can't stand Lisa. Every time she talks it looks like she's smelling a fart.

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GatewaySnayke wrote:I'm finally seeing Restaurant Wars.

God, I can't stand Lisa. Every time she talks it looks like she's smelling a fart.
If you haven't seen the latest episode, then prepare to continue to be unhappy.
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The four finalists for the Top Chef Finale are Richard, Antonia, Stephanie, and Lisa. I'm glad to see Richard, Antonia, and Stephanie were able to make it all the way through. I thought they were the best three all season, and luckily none of them shot themselves in the foot so far.

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Spike was bound to get bounced. He seemed to be good at finding shortcuts.

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GatewaySnayke wrote:Spike was bound to get bounced. He seemed to be good at finding shortcuts.
He was also good at ending up in the bottom challenge after challenge, only to use his cockroach-like abilities to avoid being sent home.

Spike should have gone home a LONG time ago.

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