Don't tell me to be honest

[tothebeach08]

There is, and always has been, a double standard out there. That's not going to change. Her problem is not necessarily that she slept with you on the first date, it's that she wanted more than just to get laid. All girls know that if you give it up on the first date, chances are there won't be a second date (unless you are swinging from the rafters or something equally impressive). Sometimes even women just want to have sex with someone and nothing more - we don't necessarily want to have long term deep meaningful relationships with every guy. Shouldn't make the girl anymore of a slut than a guy is when he does the exact same thing, but that's where the double standard comes in because even though its what you want and what she wants your just being a guy and shes just being a slut. You just have to both be on the same page from the start. It doesn't have to be some huge ordeal.

[JL21]

Shouldn't make the girl anymore of a slut than a guy is when he does the exact same thing, but that's where the double standard comes in because even though its what you want and what she wants your just being a guy and shes just being a slut. You just have to both be on the same page from the start. It doesn't have to be some huge ordeal.

Yes, this. If everybody knows the score, then there shouldn't be any problems.

Also, if the woman is swinging from the rafters or something, there also shouldn't be any problems.

[TimeForGuinness]

Also, if the woman is swinging from the rafters or something, there also shouldn't be any problems.

nope...and in most cases, it is preferred.

[phins]

Shouldn't make the girl anymore of a slut than a guy is when he does the exact same thing, but that's where the double standard comes in because even though its what you want and what she wants your just being a guy and shes just being a slut. You just have to both be on the same page from the start. It doesn't have to be some huge ordeal.

Yes, this. If everybody knows the score, then there shouldn't be any problems.

Also, if the woman is swinging from the rafters or something, there also shouldn't be any problems.

Agreed.

I'm really just speaking from my college wild phase. I'm in a committed relationship now, and things are going well, but I can tell you in college I wasn't looking for anything and if a girl I was attracted to offered that up, that pretty much ended any chance for me. Shallow as that may be.

[JL21]

College age is a very different maturity level, too. It's still kinda selfish, boorish behavior... but it's also the norm and I'd be lying if I said I was any different at that age.

College should be about wacky visceral highjinx, not "settling down" and "growing up". There's plenty of time for that later.

[AdmiralKird]

College age is a very different maturity level, too. It's still kinda selfish, boorish behavior... but it's also the norm and I'd be lying if I said I was any different at that age.

College should be about wacky visceral highjinx, not "settling down" and "growing up". There's plenty of time for that later.

I differ from my college peers. I haven't given up on it though, I plan on having that phase around 65.

[JL21]

Nobody is going to want to see your old balls when you're 65.

[Simbagal23]

Nobody is going to want to see your old balls when you're 65.

Or his elbows......

[AdmiralKird]

Nobody is going to want to see your old balls when you're 65.

I'm going to be a lady by then, thank you.

[cardinalkarp]

College age is a very different maturity level, too. It's still kinda selfish, boorish behavior... but it's also the norm and I'd be lying if I said I was any different at that age.

College should be about wacky visceral highjinx, not "settling down" and "growing up". There's plenty of time for that later.

Well college is much different. I didn't mind dating girls but I wasn't looking for a full time girlfriend. But then again I wouldn't have completely written a girl off if she was who I was looking for (but that never happened).

Still seems silly to me if you're looking for sex and she gives you sex that all of a sudden you're not interested anymore.