thrill wrote:Public Trans is nice and all, but I like to get out of the city and go places I want to go, not just places the train will take me.
You can still own a car, or rent.
Really? I thought for a second there instead of just offering an opinion, personal vehicles were going to be outlawed altogether!
Overhauling pt in most cities would be disastrous to small businesses along the routes, not to mention the money spent in taxes. Just implementing something wouldn't do much to change the culture of a commuter city either. It needs to be a slow transition, something that I think Phoenix is doing a decent job at with the completion of it's light rail system.
Oh by the way, changing driving ages and drinking ages would do very little to stop the deaths of young drinkers in vehicles. Kids think they are invincible and will continue to make tragic, foolish choices when it comes to testing their limits. Legislation will not change that.
thrill wrote:Public Trans is nice and all, but I like to get out of the city and go places I want to go, not just places the train will take me.
In Ireland, it was great...you could take a bus/train almost anywhere...and from every stop was a walk/cab ride to where you wanted to go. Sure it may have taken a little bit longer, but that was kinda fun.
I'm not saying you should ban automobiles, because they are essential...especially in most parts of the country. But switching the drinking and driving age just makes more sense to me because I was an underage drinker. What is easier: to get alcohol or to get a car?
InvincibleCakeEater wrote:I have 0% pity for people who die of an OD, drinking and driving, suicide, etc. Darwinism at it's finest. A few years out of high school a very good friend (played baseball with him for 15 years) took some pills and drank too much and died. I feel bad for their loved ones and that's it. I lost a lot of friends because apparently I wasn't sad enough, but hey, he did it to himself.
I've deleted several of my responses to this, trying to find just the right words to respond in a civilized manner. Let's put it this way, even though I can come across with a weird and sarcastic sense of humor and can sound a little "crotchety" at times, very rarely is that what is in my heart. I'm a pretty laid back guy more or less in person. I can count on one hand in the two years I have been here where a post genuinely got under my skin to the point of angering me.
I've posted over 15,000 times, and have probably read more than 100,000 - yet this post stands alone. I mean, you just took it to an entirely new level, one I didn't even think existed. Congratulations.
Darwinism... Wow.
Thank you. As someone who has struggled with depression most of my adult life, this means a lot. I didn't choose to be this way, but it happens and I deal with it. Describing it...I can't. But I do know that I don't go out of my way to be sad. In fact, people would be hard pressed to find someone who jokes around more. My sense of humor is very much intact. We're all a little different.
InvincibleCakeEater wrote:I have 0% pity for people who die of an OD, drinking and driving, suicide, etc. Darwinism at it's finest. A few years out of high school a very good friend (played baseball with him for 15 years) took some pills and drank too much and died. I feel bad for their loved ones and that's it. I lost a lot of friends because apparently I wasn't sad enough, but hey, he did it to himself.
I've deleted several of my responses to this, trying to find just the right words to respond in a civilized manner. Let's put it this way, even though I can come across with a weird and sarcastic sense of humor and can sound a little "crotchety" at times, very rarely is that what is in my heart. I'm a pretty laid back guy more or less in person. I can count on one hand in the two years I have been here where a post genuinely got under my skin to the point of angering me.
I've posted over 15,000 times, and have probably read more than 100,000 - yet this post stands alone. I mean, you just took it to an entirely new level, one I didn't even think existed. Congratulations.
Darwinism... Wow.
Thank you. As someone who has struggled with depression most of my adult life, this means a lot. I didn't choose to be this way, but it happens and I deal with it. Describing it...I can't. But I do know that I don't go out of my way to be sad. In fact, people would be hard pressed to find someone who jokes around more. My sense of humor is very much intact. We're all a little different.
That is what I like about this place so much. I know no matter what I always have friends here....I think.
InvincibleCakeEater wrote:I have 0% pity for people who die of an OD, drinking and driving, suicide, etc. Darwinism at it's finest. A few years out of high school a very good friend (played baseball with him for 15 years) took some pills and drank too much and died. I feel bad for their loved ones and that's it. I lost a lot of friends because apparently I wasn't sad enough, but hey, he did it to himself.
I've deleted several of my responses to this, trying to find just the right words to respond in a civilized manner. Let's put it this way, even though I can come across with a weird and sarcastic sense of humor and can sound a little "crotchety" at times, very rarely is that what is in my heart. I'm a pretty laid back guy more or less in person. I can count on one hand in the two years I have been here where a post genuinely got under my skin to the point of angering me.
I've posted over 15,000 times, and have probably read more than 100,000 - yet this post stands alone. I mean, you just took it to an entirely new level, one I didn't even think existed. Congratulations.
Darwinism... Wow.
Thank you. As someone who has struggled with depression most of my adult life, this means a lot. I didn't choose to be this way, but it happens and I deal with it. Describing it...I can't. But I do know that I don't go out of my way to be sad. In fact, people would be hard pressed to find someone who jokes around more. My sense of humor is very much intact. We're all a little different.
I don't think InvisibleCakeEater was directing his remarks toward people like you, though. He was talking about people that commit suicide, or drink & drive.
InvincibleCakeEater wrote:I have 0% pity for people who die of an OD, drinking and driving, suicide, etc. Darwinism at it's finest. A few years out of high school a very good friend (played baseball with him for 15 years) took some pills and drank too much and died. I feel bad for their loved ones and that's it. I lost a lot of friends because apparently I wasn't sad enough, but hey, he did it to himself.
I've deleted several of my responses to this, trying to find just the right words to respond in a civilized manner. Let's put it this way, even though I can come across with a weird and sarcastic sense of humor and can sound a little "crotchety" at times, very rarely is that what is in my heart. I'm a pretty laid back guy more or less in person. I can count on one hand in the two years I have been here where a post genuinely got under my skin to the point of angering me.
I've posted over 15,000 times, and have probably read more than 100,000 - yet this post stands alone. I mean, you just took it to an entirely new level, one I didn't even think existed. Congratulations.
Darwinism... Wow.
I settled on extremely sarcastic because most of what I really wanted to say would have probably gotten me banned.
InvincibleCakeEater wrote:I have 0% pity for people who die of an OD, drinking and driving, suicide, etc. Darwinism at it's finest. A few years out of high school a very good friend (played baseball with him for 15 years) took some pills and drank too much and died. I feel bad for their loved ones and that's it. I lost a lot of friends because apparently I wasn't sad enough, but hey, he did it to himself.
I've deleted several of my responses to this, trying to find just the right words to respond in a civilized manner. Let's put it this way, even though I can come across with a weird and sarcastic sense of humor and can sound a little "crotchety" at times, very rarely is that what is in my heart. I'm a pretty laid back guy more or less in person. I can count on one hand in the two years I have been here where a post genuinely got under my skin to the point of angering me.
I've posted over 15,000 times, and have probably read more than 100,000 - yet this post stands alone. I mean, you just took it to an entirely new level, one I didn't even think existed. Congratulations.
Darwinism... Wow.
Thank you. As someone who has struggled with depression most of my adult life, this means a lot. I didn't choose to be this way, but it happens and I deal with it. Describing it...I can't. But I do know that I don't go out of my way to be sad. In fact, people would be hard pressed to find someone who jokes around more. My sense of humor is very much intact. We're all a little different.
I don't think InvisibleCakeEater was directing his remarks toward people like you, though. He was talking about people that commit suicide, or drink & drive.
I'd venture to guess that most people who commit suicide suffer from some form of mental illness. When you drink and drive, you choose to alter your mental state to the point where you can't make good decisions - people who suffer from mental illness and then commit suicide are in an altered mental state that they did nothing to bring upon themselves. Most people just don't decide to commit suicide when they're of sound mental health, so in that sense, it's nothing like drinking and driving.
tothebeach08 wrote:No one should judge someone else. You have no idea what goes on in someone else's life. There are people who simply cannot cope when horrible things keep happening to them or they continue to make bad decisions. One of the biggest health problems the U.S. faces, is that it is way to difficult to get people who need mental health assistance hooked up with the right people who can help them. And that's not just "their" problem, that is a problem for everyone. People reach the end of the line and can't take it anymore and are so overwhelmed by all of it that they see no other way out. People outside of their situation look at them and can clearly see oh they need to do this and this and this and then everything will be fine. It doesn't work like that when your in the middle of a bunch of problems that you are not equipped to deal with. We, as human beings, have the ability to feel compassion and love for others. Whether or not we choose to use those gifts is ultimately our decision. It's easy to be around for your friends when the times are great and everything is fun. The true test of a friendship and a person is where are you when the times are bad, when someone needs you to catch them when they fall. Will you be there, will you be a true friend, or will you make them feel bad about themselves for not being able to just help themselves.
ICE, my friend, I know you probably meant it a different way, but your post on the first page just hurts my heart.
Sometimes people make bad choices, and while in some sense they may have "done it to themselves" we are talking about a person(s) losing their life. That's a pretty powerful thing to wrap your head around. My little brother recently had a great friend kill himself over a girl, and while I think it was extremely selfish in a sense, I can't say that I think natural selection was taking this great kid from us, merely because he couldn't cope with the grief of losing someone he loved.
You be angry at your friend for taking his friendship from you so young, or for doing something you don't agree with, but these issues are not simple, and you just come off kind of like an [expletive] in your post.
