Our financial system is crumbling this week.

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greenback44 wrote:My morality says that investment is supposed to be about helping a company build factories or make (good) mortgage loans, even if it's indirect through the resale price of stock. I don't see any of that with short-selling.
My morality says the same thing, but from that perspective, I don't understand huge fractions of finance. In the stock market, for example, most "investment" involves paying a previously shareholder in hopes of selling to someone else at a higher price. Generally, no money actually goes to build factories, homes, etc. Short selling seems like a minor detail here.

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Arthur Dent wrote:
greenback44 wrote:My morality says that investment is supposed to be about helping a company build factories or make (good) mortgage loans, even if it's indirect through the resale price of stock. I don't see any of that with short-selling.
My morality says the same thing, but from that perspective, I don't understand huge fractions of finance. In the stock market, for example, most "investment" involves paying a previously shareholder in hopes of selling to someone else at a higher price. Generally, no money actually goes to build factories, homes, etc. Short selling seems like a minor detail here.
Employee ownership in the company can have a favorable effect on productivity.

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docellis wrote:last night a guy on NPR said that ultimately this is China's fault as the "lender" in the relationship with the US.
America: Perfecting the victim mentality.

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docellis wrote:last night a guy on NPR said that ultimately this is China's fault as the "lender" in the relationship with the US.
Yes. Just like if I buy a share of stock in a tobacco company, I'm responsible for everyone who starts smoking.

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The stock market is rallying because Joe the Plumber is getting ready to buy Home Depot.

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The stock market is rallying today because of the rumor of....wait for it...another economic stimulus.

Jeepers.

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The stock market is rallying today because of the rumor of....wait for it...another economic stimulus.

Jeepers.

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heyzeus wrote:The stock market is rallying today because of the rumor of....wait for it...another economic stimulus.

Jeepers.
And whatever stimulus package Congress passes will 1) be placed under a mattress, or 2) not stimulate the economy until the recession is over.

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sighyoung wrote:not stimulate the economy until the recession is over.
If that happens, I'll be happy.

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Do economists back this latest stimulus? I mean seriously, with consumer confidence as low as it is, how is this going to help? It seems like another deficit plumper to me.

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