Rant: Mac

[JL21]

also, i don't know how one could rant against luke skywalker...

His dad was the most evil guy in the universe, he tried to [expletive] his sister, and Han Solo saved his ass more times than we can count.

[ghostrunner]

after owning an iPOD, i've come to hate mac...overrated if you ask me...PC not perfect, but neither is mac (though many people seem to think so)

also, i don't know how one could rant against luke skywalker...

How bad can an iPod be? It doesn't do that much.

[ghostrunner]

What OS version are you running. I'm having no problems on my mac...but I've heard of some weird issues with Snow Leopard.

Nastiest one for me was logging out if you're running old apps that weren't made for Intel chips. Occasionally it will log you out suddenly and you lose everything. 10.6.2 seems to have fixed it.

[lukethedrifter]

I had the exact same problem a few weeks after I upgraded to Snow Leopard, luke. I called Mac support and told them I was having an issue with Flash, and I spent 45 minutes on the phone to verify that I was right. Fun times.

In any case, I uninstalled and updated it about 5 five times, and it never solved the problem. As you already said, the only way to "fix" it was to remove the Flash plugin completely, but that's really irritating when so many websites use Flash content these days. This lasted about three weeks for me, and then randomly it started working again one day. I have no idea what I did, so I can't really pass any helpful advice along.

If you had read my incredibly important post you would know what I did to fix the problem that you can't help me fix.


On to apple in general, I wonder if a bit of competition might open them up a bit, eg replaceable batteries on iphone etc

[ThatGuy]

If you had read my incredibly important post you would know what I did to fix the problem that you can't help me fix.

I just read the first post and hit reply. Maybe there's something to be said for reading the entire thread before responding.

[lukethedrifter]

What OS version are you running. I'm having no problems on my mac...but I've heard of some weird issues with Snow Leopard.

Nastiest one for me was logging out if you're running old apps that weren't made for Intel chips. Occasionally it will log you out suddenly and you lose everything. 10.6.2 seems to have fixed it.

So what's the deal with apps not made for an Intel mac? Is it always apparent?

[ghostrunner]

What OS version are you running. I'm having no problems on my mac...but I've heard of some weird issues with Snow Leopard.

Nastiest one for me was logging out if you're running old apps that weren't made for Intel chips. Occasionally it will log you out suddenly and you lose everything. 10.6.2 seems to have fixed it.

So what's the deal with apps not made for an Intel mac? Is it always apparent?

You have to get info on them (command - i) and it will say under kind: Application (Intel) or Application (rosetta). If it says rosetta, that means it's old and it's running on the Intel machines under an emulator (meaning they've installed something that translates older programs for the new chips). If the program was released in 2006 or before, odds are higher it's Rosetta.

My work's main POS system runs in Rosetta, so I suddenly logged out and lost my work several times. The deal with this kind of stuff is that users will usually blame Apple, but Apple's had Intel chips now for 3 years. Anyone making software for Apple has had since 2006 to bring out an update so their stuff can run as a native application. Luckily Apple fixed it, but something was bound to break at some point in that situation.

In your case, given that the problem happens in only Flash on a browser made by Apple and one not, I'd be inclined to blame Adobe. Since the reset fixed it, their programming might be causing something to be unnecessarily written to the settings stored on the logic board, or tying in to something else that does. The reset clears out those mostly hardware related settings, which is why it surprises me that it worked. It shouldn't.

If you're interested, this is what that reset actually did:

[SHOW]

What does the System Management Controller (SMC) do?

Knowing what the SMC controls will help you determine if resetting it will solve a problem you are having. The System Management Controller (SMC) is a chip on your Mac’s logic board that deals with the following tasks:

- Power management of the computer.
- Controlling the display’s backlight.
- Hard drive spin-down and activation.
- Sleep mode and waking up from sleep mode.
- Parts of the battery charging process.
- Controlling the Trackpad.
- Input/Output related to sleep mode (Airport turning on/off, USB, FireWire)

Note: The SMC chip is only a part of Intel-based Macs. For the PowerPC platform, a similar chip is called the Power Management Unit (PMU). While similar in function, resetting the PMU is a completely different process.

I have no idea how that fixes the behavior of a media plugin.

[Jocephus]

also, i don't know how one could rant against luke skywalker...

His dad was the most evil guy in the universe, he tried to [expletive] his sister, and Han Solo saved his ass more times than we can count.

so what if is dad is bad? doesn't mean he is...he proves that...

how did he try to bone leia? he didn't know at first, then in empire after he is rescued in Hoth she kissed him, and only to make han jealous

and luke saved han from jabba, which even han admits "now i owe YOU one"

arguments = destroyed

How bad can an iPod be? It doesn't do that much.

never synched up properly (using a pc), itunes was a mess and after like 1 1/2 years it started acting strangely and barely worked correctly...it was a pos, granted it was one of those 2nd or 3rd generation black and white ipods....oh well, i love my zune so much more

[ghostrunner]

never synched up properly (using a pc), itunes was a mess and after like 1 1/2 years it started acting strangely and barely worked correctly...it was a pos, granted it was one of those 2nd or 3rd generation black and white ipods....oh well, i love my zune so much more

I didn't think about using it with a PC. I've heard bad stories about that, more specifically with iTunes. It's always been that way with Apple's software, the difference on the two platforms is night and day. I knew some PC users that hated Quicktime with a passion. I didn't understand until I saw it being used and then I understood. I also realized it was the same way I felt about Windows Media Player for the Mac.

[Jocephus]

yeah, im not a fan of quicktime, or real player for that matter...