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Posted: March 23 07, 9:37 am
by AJ
Jake wrote:card_fan_in_chi wrote:I still hate the Pirates from 2003.... loaded up the Cubs for next to nothing in return to give them the division.
Me too.
Imagine Aramis still with us.
Duffy, Sanchez, Aramis, LaRoche, Bay, Paulino, who cares!
Duffy is still a great unknown, but the four after him? Paulino only hit .310 last year. I don't care if they were all singles.
Damn!
Add Bonds to that lineup, a couple servicable pitchers, and you would have a contender.
Posted: March 23 07, 9:53 am
by GatewaySnayke
Jake, you are a Pirates fan?
That's odd, because I wasn't even sure many of you existed anymore.
Posted: March 23 07, 9:56 am
by JL21
jim wrote:I will say the Pirates have a better shot that the Royals or DRays.
For now..... but once/if the D-Rays young talent starts coming along, they'll probably surpass the Pirates. The Rays are loaded with kids that can play.
Posted: March 23 07, 9:57 am
by jim
RC21 wrote:jim wrote:I will say the Pirates have a better shot that the Royals or DRays.
For now..... but once/if the D-Rays young talent starts coming along, they'll probably surpass the Pirates. The Rays are loaded with kids that can play.
More of a statement of where they are as opposed to what they are. If you are in the ALE or ALC, you better be pretty good.
Posted: March 23 07, 11:05 am
by Jake
GatewaySnayke wrote:Jake, you are a Pirates fan?
That's odd, because I wasn't even sure many of you existed anymore.
Check out
http://www.iratefans.com !
Posted: March 23 07, 11:07 am
by Jake
RC21 wrote:jim wrote:I will say the Pirates have a better shot that the Royals or DRays.
For now..... but once/if the D-Rays young talent starts coming along, they'll probably surpass the Pirates. The Rays are loaded with kids that can play.
In '96, BA rated the Pirates as having the best minor league system.
What did we get out of that?
More losing!
It's one thing to have potential. It's another to realize it.
Posted: March 23 07, 12:48 pm
by Hungary Jack
RC21 wrote:jim wrote:I will say the Pirates have a better shot that the Royals or DRays.
For now..... but once/if the D-Rays young talent starts coming along, they'll probably surpass the Pirates. The Rays are loaded with kids that can play.
Hasn't this been the case for quite some time?
Posted: March 23 07, 12:50 pm
by Jmodene
FWIW, the Pirates didn't finish last last season... that was the Cubs.
BTW, I, too, am still mad about those Pirate/Cub giveaway deals in 2003. I fully blame McLendon on that one.
Posted: March 23 07, 1:45 pm
by Jake
Jmodene wrote:FWIW, the Pirates didn't finish last last season... that was the Cubs.
BTW, I, too, am still mad about those Pirate/Cub giveaway deals in 2003. I fully blame McLendon on that one.
It was Ownership that forced the trade. MLB has some debt/equity rules that the Pirates were in danger of crossing, or may have already crossed. Because of these rules, they needed to shed a big contract.
They were about to trade Benson. But, then he got hurt, and the Ramirez deal was put together quickly.
At least those were the rumors.
Posted: March 23 07, 10:21 pm
by Wekse5
card_fan_in_chi wrote:I still hate the Pirates from 2003.... loaded up the Cubs for next to nothing in return to give them the division.
bobby hill