How many Hall of Famers are playing now?
- cardinalkarp
- Hall Of Famer
- Posts: 18730
- Joined: May 4 06, 8:44 am
- vance
- Everyday Player
- Posts: 406
- Joined: April 19 06, 3:00 pm
Catcher is a far different position than CF.MaskedMan wrote:not only that, but a GG in BOTH leagues and probably considered the top 3 defensive OF/CF over the past 8 years
if Gary (Fkg!) Carter got in on Dfence, JED should too
If Edmonds should get in, so should Bernie Williams. I'm not sure I'm prepared to make that leap.
- Redbirdruss
- Veteran Player
- Posts: 674
- Joined: June 24 06, 8:22 am
- Location: Head in Bag
-
MaskedMan
- All-Star
- Posts: 1268
- Joined: April 18 06, 7:31 pm
- Location: Tucson, Arizona waiting for a Tesla
You think BW is mentioned in the same defensive league as JED?vance wrote:Catcher is a far different position than CF.MaskedMan wrote:not only that, but a GG in BOTH leagues and probably considered the top 3 defensive OF/CF over the past 8 years
if Gary (Fkg!) Carter got in on Dfence, JED should too
If Edmonds should get in, so should Bernie Williams. I'm not sure I'm prepared to make that leap.
If so, I respectfully disagree
- Popeye_Card
- GRB's most intelligent & humble poster
- Posts: 31058
- Joined: April 17 06, 11:25 am
- cardinalkarp
- Hall Of Famer
- Posts: 18730
- Joined: May 4 06, 8:44 am
I agree w/ that. JED is a MUCH better CF.MaskedMan wrote:You think BW is mentioned in the same defensive league as JED?vance wrote:Catcher is a far different position than CF.MaskedMan wrote:not only that, but a GG in BOTH leagues and probably considered the top 3 defensive OF/CF over the past 8 years
if Gary (Fkg!) Carter got in on Dfence, JED should too
If Edmonds should get in, so should Bernie Williams. I'm not sure I'm prepared to make that leap.
If so, I respectfully disagree
Not sure how this relates to the conversation, sure they're different but equally important IMO.Catcher is a far different position than CF.
- JL21
- NPR & THT Contributor
- Posts: 36109
- Joined: April 18 06, 7:44 am
- Location: Chocolate City
I don't know. Edmonds' peak is right there with the very best CF's of all-time (reference Baseball Prospectus Annual, 2005). His peak (2000-2004) was better than all but 4 or 5 CF's in history, and the list of the ones that beat him included Dimaggio, Mantle, Mays, and Junior Griffey.vance wrote:Catcher is a far different position than CF.MaskedMan wrote:not only that, but a GG in BOTH leagues and probably considered the top 3 defensive OF/CF over the past 8 years
if Gary (Fkg!) Carter got in on Dfence, JED should too
If Edmonds should get in, so should Bernie Williams. I'm not sure I'm prepared to make that leap.
Edmonds' WARP3 numbers are just a hair under Bernie's (106 for Bernie to 103 for JimEd) and Edmonds is still an everyday player, whereas Bernie Williams is essentially retired.
- vance
- Everyday Player
- Posts: 406
- Joined: April 19 06, 3:00 pm
If Edmonds gets in, so should have this guy:
295/369/564, 381 HR, 1239 RBI, 974 R. 5X all-star; 1 MVP, 3 other top five MVP finishes. He wasn't near the defensive player as Edmonds, but his numbers are better in a shorter career.
This guy should go in before Edmonds as well:
295/343/561; 434 HR; 1404 RBI; 1061 R; 3X AS; 2X MVP with 2 other top five finishes. Not a defensive player like Edmonds, but much more feared as a hitter.
Edmonds is a good ball player; he's not HOF in my book.
295/369/564, 381 HR, 1239 RBI, 974 R. 5X all-star; 1 MVP, 3 other top five MVP finishes. He wasn't near the defensive player as Edmonds, but his numbers are better in a shorter career.
This guy should go in before Edmonds as well:
295/343/561; 434 HR; 1404 RBI; 1061 R; 3X AS; 2X MVP with 2 other top five finishes. Not a defensive player like Edmonds, but much more feared as a hitter.
Edmonds is a good ball player; he's not HOF in my book.
- ToughGuy_BlueShirt
- Perennial All-Star
- Posts: 4211
- Joined: May 19 06, 3:30 pm



