Santa Clause is real!!!!!

[Arthur Dent]

Of all the myths in the world, Santa Claus has to me the most harmless, and besides, what's the point of being a parent if you don't get the pleasure of tricking your children?

[haltz]

Of all the myths in the world, Santa Claus has to me the most harmless, and besides, what's the point of being a parent if you don't get the pleasure of tricking your children?

If you're not with me on this one, I'm guessing I'm all alone.

I guess it just took away from the whole thing. You could just as easily have the tradition and the whole nine yards without getting kids to actually believe there's some dude on the North Pole with a magic stopwatch and flying reindeer. Also, my stance probably has more to do with other stories that I consider myths now that I heard my entire youth. Stuff that was a real mind**** when I decided that it didn't make any sense later in life bleeding over into absolutism wrt this sort of thing. But that's kind of downer and well off-topic.

[Arthur Dent]

Of all the myths in the world, Santa Claus has to me the most harmless, and besides, what's the point of being a parent if you don't get the pleasure of tricking your children?

If you're not with me on this one, I'm guessing I'm all alone.

I guess it just took away from the whole thing. You could just as easily have the tradition and the whole nine yards without getting kids to actually believe there's some dude on the North Pole with a magic stopwatch and flying reindeer. Also, my stance probably has more to do with other stories that I consider myths now that I heard my entire youth. Stuff that was a real mind**** when I decided that it didn't make any sense later in life bleeding over into absolutism wrt this sort of thing. But that's kind of downer and well off-topic.

I see where you're coming from. I'm sure there was a time that I really believed in Santa Claus, but I don't know if I ever took it that seriously (Santa Claus is watching or anything like that). At some point, I started doubting and eventually stopping believing it, but I never felt betrayed by the story. It was still fun as a kind of ritual what with with the putting out cookies and what not. Interesting parallels...

[jim]

haltz - you get some little [expletive] pulling your chain around Christmas time and if you can resist the "Straighten your ass up because Santa is watching" then you are a better man than I.

[ghostrunner]

haltz - you get some little [expletive] pulling your chain around Christmas time and if you can resist the "Straighten your ass up because Santa is watching" then you are a better man than I.

This is a new weapon in our arsenal this year. He's 2½ and he's just now able to grasp the idea.

I don't know what it is about Santa Claus, but he was crazy about him before we even started mentioning presents. We read to him every night before bed, and he had a phase where he was asking for the Christmas books this past summer. Couldn't get enough of the "Ho ho ho."

[wart57]

Bah. Kids just keep faking that the believe in Santa because they are afraid if they own up it will their parents won't be compelled to give them Santa presents each Christmas.

Except Wart. He believed.

I still believe in Santa Clause. If you get more joy from giving during the Holiday season than getting, you are Santa.

If you get more joy out of giving during the Holiday season than receiving, then you are a fool.

A fool and his money are soon parted. This is the time to clean house wart. You need to use that giving/getting thing to YOUR advantage, not others.

Sounds like you've got Christmas spirit this year!

[jim]

haltz - you get some little [expletive] pulling your chain around Christmas time and if you can resist the "Straighten your ass up because Santa is watching" then you are a better man than I.

This is a new weapon in our arsenal this year. He's 2½ and he's just now able to grasp the idea.

I don't know what it is about Santa Claus, but he was crazy about him before we even started mentioning presents. We read to him every night before bed, and he had a phase where he was asking for the Christmas books this past summer. Couldn't get enough of the "Ho ho ho."

You won't need it for a couple of years, but keep in mind that what REALLY works is calling Santa. The look of panic on their face when you pick the phone up, and then the hysterical cries as you dial the numbers. Out of desperation they start grabbing your leg, and you just look at them sternly and tell them "Too late for that pal, I'm calling".

On the last number, keep the finger hovering over the keypad and stare right at them with the meanest looks you can muster. If you can get your finger to tremble, all the better. At that moment, make your move. Tell them you will give them one, and only one more chance, before dialing the Santa hotline.

You just might get a full day out of that technique.

God I miss the kids being little. Christmas was so much more fun.

[jim]

Bah. Kids just keep faking that the believe in Santa because they are afraid if they own up it will their parents won't be compelled to give them Santa presents each Christmas.

Except Wart. He believed.

I still believe in Santa Clause. If you get more joy from giving during the Holiday season than getting, you are Santa.

If you get more joy out of giving during the Holiday season than receiving, then you are a fool.

A fool and his money are soon parted. This is the time to clean house wart. You need to use that giving/getting thing to YOUR advantage, not others.

Sounds like you'ce got Christmas spirit this year!

No different this year than any others. I just want my fair share. I just want what I have coming to me.

[JCShutout]

Bah. Kids just keep faking that the believe in Santa because they are afraid if they own up it will their parents won't be compelled to give them Santa presents each Christmas.

Except Wart. He believed.

That's pretty much what youth was for me. Faking belief in santa for fear of losing extra presents.

[wart57]

Bah. Kids just keep faking that the believe in Santa because they are afraid if they own up it will their parents won't be compelled to give them Santa presents each Christmas.

Except Wart. He believed.

That's pretty much what youth was for me. Faking belief in santa for fear of losing extra presents.

Too funny, I thought I was the only one who did this. I knew it was my parents when I was about 8, I ased Santa for one thing, and told my parents something else, I got waht I told my parents I had told Santa, but I faked it for another few years.

The thing is, if I want to tell my child the truth, I should be able to do that, not have her find out by watching TV.