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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:In all honesty, that is something that just seems wacko to me. There are a lot of people that love it; I understand we all have our things. But the constant threat of death if you slip makes it, for me at least, a lot more difficult to understand.

Edited to say that the video you posted the other day seemed like absolute insanity. How many people have died up there?
Almost all of the small number of deaths on Torreys Peak are due to avalanches in Dead Dog couloir, which intersects the pictured ridge just below the knife edge you see in the picture. It is very steep at the top, probably 50 degrees or so. Thus slipping off the knife edge to the climber's right would probably result in a loooooong descent down Dead Dog, at which point you would be a dead human. But most deaths involve climbers ascending the couloir or skiers coming down it, not hikers on ridge.

I don't know anything about that crazy ridge in the video, and don't intend to. The vegetation and lack of solid rock might increase your chances of surviving a fall.

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Yeah, I've never understood mountain climbing either. But I probably do a lot of crazy [expletive] that other people don't understand.

Just know this, if you get stuck or die on a mountain, my ass will not be coming to your rescue nor will I be watching a documentary or movie about your ass.

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There was a 50ish businessman from Oklahoma who had never climbed or really hiked. He came to CO one summer, had a free day, and decided to hike up to Torreys, which is strenuous but very safe on the standard route. He got to around 13,000 ft, and decided to take a "short cut" from the trail by going up Dead Dog couloir, which was still full of consolidated snow.

Kicking steps in the soft snow and using his collapsed telescoping trekking poles as ice axes, he ascended the ever-steeping slopes and got pretty close to the summit ridge, when a pole snapped off because it wasn't designed to be an ice axe. He tumbled backwards several hundred feet, breaking bones and tearing his ACL, before his daypack snagged a rock. He fished out his cell phone and called CO SAR. He lived.

So yeah, it's people like this who raise the question "Why?"

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A Missouri State Trooper lost his life this week when he fell 2500 ft while solo climbing Grand Teton.

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lukethedrifter wrote:A Missouri State Trooper lost his life this week when he fell 2500 ft while solo climbing Grand Teton.
I'd love to do the Grand someday, but it will certainly be with a guide from Exum or some comparable service.

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good luck on the Grand. I keep thinking about doing it, but then I remind myself that I love really long trad climbs and am not a big fan of mountaineering. Ice, snow, crampons, axes, heavy packs dont sound like fun to me.

Love the ridge climb. I am a fan.

Give me the nose on El Caphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:El_Ca ... _Frost.jpg anyday over the Grand

Or the regular route on the diamondhttp://www.mountainproject.com/v/105995369

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I haven't tapped out the thrill I get from conventional hiking. So if a non-gear way exists to get up a mtn or viewpoint with reasonable mileage -i will stick to that. But I don't mind others doing it. It blew my mind when I saw specks of people on the zion canyon walls.

HJ - somewhere I read climbers discussing climbing up thru those spectacular waterfalls up to mohawk lakes-(not ice climbing- but putting anchors in the rocks to go up the falls. Stuff like that seems ridiculous- why not use the trail

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a_smith wrote:good luck on the Grand. I keep thinking about doing it, but then I remind myself that I love really long trad climbs and am not a big fan of mountaineering. Ice, snow, crampons, axes, heavy packs dont sound like fun to me.

Love the ridge climb. I am a fan.

Give me the nose on El Caphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:El_Ca ... _Frost.jpg anyday over the Grand

Or the regular route on the diamondhttp://www.mountainproject.com/v/105995369
I was just showing pictures of Longs today to a friend of mine who has little outdoor experience. I went through all the great routes on Longs, which is such a great peak for its incredible variety. I showed her pics of the Diamond, Broadway/Kieners/Notch, the Loft/Keplingers (did that last year), the Cable route, and the standard Keyhole route. Even she exclaimed "Wow, there are a lot of different ways to get up that mountain!"

I don't really climb, but someday would like to get guided up Lambs/Broadway/Kieners and maybe the Cable route. I don't think I could ever handle the Diamond.

I'm no expert, but it doesn't seem that there are that many big walls in the US. the Diamond, El Cap, Devil's Tower, and maybe Shiprock are the ones that come immediately to mind.

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