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Re: Horrible umpires
Posted: July 18 22, 11:54 am
by Birdfan57
Big Amoco Sign wrote: ↑July 18 22, 10:20 am
CardsofSTL wrote: ↑July 18 22, 10:00 am
Well...my point although not well made admittedly was that there is precedence for having certain umpires designated as plate umpires and others as base umpires,
Right yeah, oh well, only a few more months and we'll never have home plate ball/strike umps again.
Ridiculous ball being called a strike in the Phils-Marlins game yesterday. Was being heckled from the Miami dugout and never looked over there because he knew he was wrong.
Bring on the robots calling balls and strikes.
Re: Horrible umpires
Posted: July 18 22, 11:55 am
by ghostrunner
Big Amoco Sign wrote: ↑July 18 22, 10:20 am
CardsofSTL wrote: ↑July 18 22, 10:00 am
Well...my point although not well made admittedly was that there is precedence for having certain umpires designated as plate umpires and others as base umpires,
Right yeah, oh well, only a few more months and we'll never have home plate ball/strike umps again.
Doesn't this start in 2024?
Re: Horrible umpires
Posted: July 18 22, 11:58 am
by Big Amoco Sign
ghostrunner wrote: ↑July 18 22, 11:55 am
Big Amoco Sign wrote: ↑July 18 22, 10:20 am
CardsofSTL wrote: ↑July 18 22, 10:00 am
Well...my point although not well made admittedly was that there is precedence for having certain umpires designated as plate umpires and others as base umpires,
Right yeah, oh well, only a few more months and we'll never have home plate ball/strike umps again.
Doesn't this start in 2024?
You're correct. I thought since it was in AAA already, that it was ready.
I guess it's not for a couple years. Geeze, WHY? lol
Re: Horrible umpires
Posted: August 16 22, 12:14 pm
by sighyoung
Re: Horrible umpires
Posted: August 16 22, 1:24 pm
by Famous Mortimer
Birdfan57 wrote: ↑June 11 22, 3:48 pm
CardsofSTL wrote: ↑June 11 22, 2:37 am
Birdfan57 wrote: ↑June 9 22, 3:34 pm
Talking about horrible umpiring, did Angel Hernandez retire or go on a long vacation? Haven't heard anything about him screwing up calls for a few weeks now.
Oh give me a bleeping break. He can not be serious. If he had 1 more eye he'd be a cyclops.
He knows his "case" has absolutely zero merit. MLB told him they don't think he's good enough to ump WS games but can't fire him, so he just keeps up the meaningless legal cases to annoy them.
Re: Horrible umpires
Posted: August 16 22, 2:06 pm
by AdmiralKird
Can you challenge the count at the plate, or does that fall under "you can't review balls and strikes."
Re: Horrible umpires
Posted: August 16 22, 2:54 pm
by Kincaid
The ball-strike count is considered a matter of record-keeping, which can be challenged.
Re: Horrible umpires
Posted: August 16 22, 3:06 pm
by Joe Shlabotnik
Kincaid wrote: ↑August 16 22, 2:54 pm
The ball-strike count is considered a matter of record-keeping, which can be challenged.
Right- why isn't the official score keeper getting involved?
Re: Horrible umpires
Posted: August 18 22, 6:33 am
by Jocephus
MLB Umpires Association, adamant that crews are simply upholding rule, address home-plate collision rule in statement
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/344 ... -statement
Re: Horrible umpires
Posted: August 18 22, 7:44 am
by AWvsCBsteeeerike3
The more I've paid attention, the easier this rule is. People complaining about the 'trickiness' (eg, Hedges in the article) of it are just belly-aching.
It's maybe a bit different than what he was taught growing up. Maybe.
The video can be found at this link.
https://www.mlb.com/news/austin-hedges- ... urned-call
Go to the 14-15 second mark.
Keep in mind the foul line is an extension of back angle of the plate. Hedges sets up with his left leg over the line and between the runner and home. Hence, no lane is given. Worse he reaches back across his body and catches the ball to the right of his right shoulder. So, he can't argue the act of fielding the ball caused him to block the lane.
This one is solely on Hedges for setting up incorrectly, imo. Or on the Guardians for teaching him to set up incorrectly.
It's pretty simple. Put the left foot on the front left corner of the plate (the corner closest to 3B/Pitchers mound). The right foot is in fair territory. A lane is given to the back/middle of the plate. Receive the ball and apply the tag. Hedges is, what, maybe a foot or 18" 'left' of there. Sure, its a small difference, but the same 'tricky' rule kept him from being lit the [expletive] up by the runner as he almost surely would have been 10 years ago.
And, if there's any question as to rather or not he didn't provide a lane, look at the path the runner took. Or the angle from the 3B dugout.
Having said all that, I will go back to my original point that it's not tricky. Perhaps it is tricky. Same as most all of baseball.