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Re: ChatGPT
Posted: December 12 23, 6:20 pm
by Joe Shlabotnik
mikechamp wrote: ↑December 12 23, 4:41 pm
What the hell was that?
"Intelligence"
The programmers need to teach the bots fart jokes.
Re: ChatGPT
Posted: December 12 23, 6:35 pm
by MrCrowesGarden
Re: ChatGPT
Posted: December 12 23, 7:27 pm
by Joe Shlabotnik
Keep trying!
Re: ChatGPT
Posted: December 13 23, 10:24 am
by mikechamp
What language is this thing trying to use?
Re: ChatGPT
Posted: December 13 23, 10:59 am
by MrCrowesGarden
mikechamp wrote: ↑December 13 23, 10:24 am
What language is this thing trying to use?
It doesn’t look at language— letters are basically just symbols, the same as a star or a spiral. But it of course doesn’t get it right a fair bit
Re: ChatGPT
Posted: December 13 23, 11:27 am
by Joe Shlabotnik
So, again, they aren't really teaching the software anything other than 'do a search of what is asked, then randomly riff on that.' The bot isn't trying to communicate or influence or gauge the questioner and tailor the response to them. That sh!t is intelligence. This is still regurgitation and repackaging.
And then for some reason we think its ok to let programmed machines operate on their own with no guardrails or oversight. Machines which will (not may - will) contain bugs and rely on hardware that will (not may - will) wear out, malfunction, and break. It's insane. Complete hubris. Ultimately just stupid.
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Re: ChatGPT
Posted: December 14 23, 9:39 am
by sighyoung
One clear issue, based on the generated images, is the limited nature of the data sets being fed these computers, which will generate biased results.
With a couple of exceptions, the art work alludes to ideas about European peasantry and folk humor, to cartoons from the late nineteenth century (the top one looks like a colorized Thomas Nast cartoon) or earlier European art from the 16th through the 18th centuries during the age of trade, exploration, and colonization.
A bushy-haired or curly-haired man with a mustache appears again and again, as do people wearing suspenders--even in conjunction with other clothes (such as the suit and tie in the top image). The presence of balloons, or ships near a harbor, or European towns or ruins, is really fascinating.
To me, this reads like a set of ideas about nationalities and class, combined with certain art conventions of the West, blended together and spat out over and over and over again.
Re: ChatGPT
Posted: December 14 23, 10:04 am
by MrCrowesGarden
sighyoung wrote: ↑December 14 23, 9:39 am
One clear issue, based on the generated images, is the limited nature of the data sets being fed these computers, which will generate biased results.
With a couple of exceptions, the art work alludes to ideas about European peasantry and folk humor, to cartoons from the late nineteenth century (the top one looks like a colorized Thomas Nast cartoon) or earlier European art from the 16th through the 18th centuries during the age of trade, exploration, and colonization.
A bushy-haired or curly-haired man with a mustache appears again and again, as do people wearing suspenders--even in conjunction with other clothes (such as the suit and tie in the top image). The presence of balloons, or ships near a harbor, or European towns or ruins, is really fascinating.
To me, this reads like a set of ideas about nationalities and class, combined with certain art conventions of the West, blended together and spat out over and over and over again.
I'd also add that this was just one AI model (Leonardo AI in this case.) I don't know what I would've gotten if I tried to use another one like Bing, which has a content warning about "fart" in almost every context.
I only use AI for [expletive] because that's all it should be used for.
Re: ChatGPT
Posted: December 14 23, 10:34 am
by sighyoung
MrCrowesGarden wrote: ↑December 14 23, 10:04 am
I'd also add that this was just one AI model (Leonardo AI in this case.) I don't know what I would've gotten if I tried to use another one like Bing, which has a content warning about "fart" in almost every context.
I only use AI for [expletive] because that's all it should be used for.
I certainly understand.
Re: ChatGPT
Posted: December 14 23, 10:41 am
by sighyoung
I do think this is the semester in which I'm seeing students turn to ChatGPT or other sites to help them generate papers.
There was a small number of assignments turned in in which plots and characters were completely incorrect. Quotes from poems that were not from the actual poems. That sort of thing.
In addition, I noticed that students didn't correct their writing from the first to the second exam. For instance, if they couldn't provide a thesis statement in the first exam, they rarely did so in the second exam. Topic sentences often did not state the main idea of the paragraph, but would begin with something like "Philip Roth is an important mid-century American writer. Born in . . . ," and the point of the paragraph and its relationship to the argument of the essay would be buried in the paragraph.
Finally, certain students' "arguments" really only amounted to a gigantic typed quote from the literary work, with little additional analysis. In the past, I would have assumed that the student just needed to learn to elaborate, but now I'm increasingly convinced that some students are making no attempt to practice shaping arguments.