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CardsofSTL wrote:
April 14 21, 9:36 pm
The Sikarians
Are they the horny space italians?

Star Trek has a sketchy track record with both playing fast and loose with what the transporters can do and also, moral consistency with their reactions. Picard didn't do so hot with evil Riker transporter clone iirc. There's a Riker clone out there doing dirt just because there wasn't room enough for both of them in Star Fleet and they decided to punt on dealing with the consequences of their own transporter accident. It was very atypical behavior for every character involved, including Picard and Riker.

This touches on my favorite facet of star trek: the existential terror they all face at every moment and how they just cruise right past it. Scotty was stuck in a transporter beam for like 30 years and he just shakes it off. IMO, the newer series are doing a decent job reckoning with that, but I love the old way of just breezing past trauma like it's nothing. Picard was back on the job after wolf 359 quicker than most people are back from paternity leave.

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thrill wrote:
April 19 21, 7:34 am
CardsofSTL wrote:
April 14 21, 9:36 pm
The Sikarians
Are they the horny space italians?
Yes

Picard Series Spoiler
[SHOW]
You may recall that they had the gate transporter technology that would potentially cut significant time off of Voyager's journey back to the Alpha quadrant but were reluctant to share it. It shows up on the Romulan Borg research cube in the Queen's chambers and Picard uses it to escape to Nepenthe and Riker's Pizza Parlor
thrill wrote:
April 19 21, 7:34 am
Star Trek has a sketchy track record with both playing fast and loose with what the transporters can do and also, moral consistency with their reactions. Picard didn't do so hot with evil Riker transporter clone iirc. There's a Riker clone out there doing dirt just because there wasn't room enough for both of them in Star Fleet and they decided to punt on dealing with the consequences of their own transporter accident. It was very atypical behavior for every character involved, including Picard and Riker.

This touches on my favorite facet of star trek: the existential terror they all face at every moment and how they just cruise right past it. Scotty was stuck in a transporter beam for like 30 years and he just shakes it off. IMO, the newer series are doing a decent job reckoning with that, but I love the old way of just breezing past trauma like it's nothing. Picard was back on the job after wolf 359 quicker than most people are back from paternity leave.
I think that was partially because they were still transitioning from the episodic nature of Star Trek's origins. Poor old Tom Riker is still wasting away in a Cardassian prison camp somewhere I guess since we haven't seen him since he surrendered himself in a very self-less Riker move. I guess for Scotty it felt like it had only been minutes; then they gave him an old and busted shuttle and told him to get the hell off LaForge's ship. Simplified approach but they made for fun stories that you don't have to worry about the consequences of.

Picard likes bottling up his aggression so that he can take it out on nameless ensigns that will get assimilated in future encounters with the Borg.

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I was trying to remember what became of Evil Riker. Doesn't he show up early on in DS9? Is that how he ended up?

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CardsofSTL wrote:
April 19 21, 11:05 am

Yes
For some reason I just digested that as Iconian tech the borg assimilated, rather than the advanced, horny, space italians from Voyager.

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thrill wrote:
April 19 21, 12:48 pm
CardsofSTL wrote:
April 19 21, 11:05 am

Yes
For some reason I just digested that as Iconian tech the borg assimilated, rather than the advanced, horny, space italians from Voyager.
LOL. At one point the horny space Italian reaches out and caresses Janeway's face and I'm like, dude, is she gonna have to bang this guy to get this transporter technology? Cause they do a closeup of her expression and you can tell she's asking herself that too.

On another note, I love that for a sci-fi show there are so many humanoid alien species that, as far as I can tell, are meant to have evolved from other animals into bi-pedal humanoids. Like, are the Cardassians supposed to be Cobra people or something? Are the Ferengi like mud guppies who grew a big brain?

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G. Keenan wrote:
April 19 21, 12:31 pm
I was trying to remember what became of Evil Riker. Doesn't he show up early on in DS9? Is that how he ended up?
Lt Riker ~twenty year old spoiler~
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joins the Maquis and shows up on DS9 posing as Commander Riker and steals the Defiant.
That's the last we saw of him. And he really wasn't Evil Riker; he was just more reckless Riker.

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thrill wrote:
April 19 21, 12:48 pm
CardsofSTL wrote:
April 19 21, 11:05 am

Yes
For some reason I just digested that as Iconian tech the borg assimilated, rather than the advanced, horny, space italians from Voyager.
Hugh said it was Sikarian technology.

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G. Keenan wrote:
April 19 21, 12:57 pm
thrill wrote:
April 19 21, 12:48 pm
CardsofSTL wrote:
April 19 21, 11:05 am

Yes
For some reason I just digested that as Iconian tech the borg assimilated, rather than the advanced, horny, space italians from Voyager.
LOL. At one point the horny space Italian reaches out and caresses Janeway's face and I'm like, dude, is she gonna have to bang this guy to get this transporter technology? Cause they do a closeup of her expression and you can tell she's asking herself that too.

On another note, I love that for a sci-fi show there are so many humanoid alien species that, as far as I can tell, are meant to have evolved from other animals into bi-pedal humanoids. Like, are the Cardassians supposed to be Cobra people or something? Are the Ferengi like mud guppies who grew a big brain?
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient_humanoid

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That episode was some decent Trek.

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Oh snap, a Q just beamed on.

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